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rear brakes, delete mod maybe???

25K views 48 replies 3 participants last post by  Helmut  
#1 ·
aight, the rear brakes dont work, dont care to fix them. i
want to do away with the hole assemble.

pretty much with the assemble off it leaves the axle going into the tube across the rear end but there is a gap so it has some play and im pretty sure that will mess up the bearing on the gear side of it. also i dont know if the gear side is sealed so if water got into the tube it might be able to get into the rear diff. someone correct me on that if you could.

pretty much the brake assemble holds the axle in place. i have thought about cutting that to the size of the tube and still retaining the stock bolts to the axle but then im going to run into a sealing issue on the other side of that.

it would be cool if somebody made a bearing to fit that gap and just do away with the whole assemble.

what do you guys think??
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
i dont think the drum helped seal anything from the looks of it.


man, i wanna get rid of it. cleaner look, less things to get hung on, so on. but taking the drum out does help with rotational mass cut down so that is a plus.


humm
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
yeah i thought about cutting the brake backing plate to the size of the axle tube, well to the size of the studs so it can still bolt on but then how would i seal it???? could i just pack it with grease and seal it that way???
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
there is an O ring where it connects to the axle tube, i was just thinking it would seep past the bearing on the other side.

ill have a pic up in a min, im a little confussed as to what your saying.
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
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there is an O ring on the other side at the axle tube, but will water leak in this way thru the bearing??? if not then i dont even need the back part, if so, then i cant cut it because the bolts for the black part are on the outer edges of it, if i cut it, i cut them off.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
okay i think i got it now.

the backing place holds the axle in place, the drum will slide up next to that and seal.

i could cut most of the back plate off, all the outside edges. pretty much cut it along the line of the studs so it will still bolt up like stock, and hold the axle in place. then cut out the outer portion of the brake drum, use the inner portion and slide it on to create the seal, then use the nuts to tighten it all down. then the axle is held into place, its all sealed, and i dont have this big chunk on the axle.

am i off base or am i on the right path???
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
it reaches out to the axle nuts, only thing i want to remove off of the drum is the outer part of the circle, pretty much i just want the center of the circle and do away with the rest of the drum.

someone said its a 2 peice design and the center should just pop out, if thats the case that would be great but i dont think it is.

also what is your thoughts on packing the diff and axle tube with grease??
 
Discussion starter · #21 ·
man measure from hub to hub... haha. i gotta do math, also what is the back spacing on the wheels, same back spacing as the 300.

i just read somewhere that it dont really swap over to the 300, something about having to have a 2in spacer on one side. idk.

how hard is it to swap differentials out???




and i was just playin, thanks for the measurement.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
yea i noticed it looked like it was kind of in the middle.

with 12 inch tires i got i think it was 46in from outside to outside of tire. 29.5 from hub to hub.

looks like i need a foreman rear end with a rancher gear.
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
haha there you go.

man, that was tedious work. with the bearing still in the brake backing plate (i dont guess it comes out???) and with a little screw driver i finally got the seal off and got a good bit of grease it in then it was a booger getting the seal back on. i feel better now tho knowing it wont lock up on me.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
i think im just gonna leave the brakes alone, seal it all back up, get my other hub welded (was getting real loose) and just ride it till i can get a foreman 350 rear.

are the brakes better on those??
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
damn, i need to work on fixing my brakes now (the fronts, it leaks fluid some where, just gotta find out where) made a noticeable difference greasing the bearings. it rolls so much better now.

does the front have bearings??