[Dj300EX]

What is IRS?

 

[08700xx]

Independent Rear Suspension

 

[08700xx]

I live in TN, we have trails and fields to ride in here. Noone I know races around here. We took it to the trails friday and it did great and climbed steep hills that gave my built LTZ 400 a hard time. Really a great bike I just have no need for it.

Your LTZ is only faster until you learn to ride the XX. I had to re-learn to ride when I got my XX. It took a little while but once you learn to ride the IRS these things are crazy fast. Someone told me when I got mine that when you push it into a turn and think you are about to die, push it a little harder and it gets better. They were right. These things were designed for desert racing and they handle better at high speed than at normal woods riding speeds. I have modified mine a good bit but it is faster now than any atv I have ever owned and I have had everything Honda has ever built to race. And none of them were stock. The XX does lend itself to being better in more open trails but can be fast in tight stuff also, and as you noticed is an excellent hill climber. Anyway good luck with your sale, but you might want to give it a little more of a try.

My Z has a +4 stroker, bigbore, ported head with +1mm valves, stage 2 hotcams, FCR39 carb and weighs about 200lbs less then the xx. My buddy couldn't keep up with me in a drag race. The only thing I like about the xx is it feels like sitting on a Cadillac when riding but for it being a 700cc (686cc) I thought it would have some serious power.

With that much work done to your Z, I see why it is faster. There is that HP/weight thing. But with similar work done to the XX they have been seen to dyno in the 90 HP range. The XX doesn't have the hp stock that you would think it would with that big of a motor. And they are heavy with the IRS. But they are torque monsters, and they ride sooooo smooooooth.Most guys gear them down a little since they are geared to run 90 stock. No other atv that I know of will run that stock. Everyone wants to drag race me when I take it out, and most of the better quads will take me after the launch, but they always quit about time I shift out of third. They think the race is over because they have run out of gears. If you gear the XX down to match the other quads it is a lot more impressive but it is also a waste geared like that.

 

[Dj300EX]

Independent Rear Suspension

That's what I though, because when I went to the dealers and looked at a 2013 Honda 250, it had a rear end with a diff, and the motor was turned sideways to utilize a drive shaft to the rear diff.

I could see how this is a problem for racing or even fast trail riding against chain driven bikes. It makes the bike heavier, I lifted the rear on that 250 and it's way heavier then my 02 300EX or even 92 mojave 250.

But I do see the good in it, in the sense of it with the proper signal lights and stuff, would be potentially road legal. I've heard many times that quads are only illegal on the roads because they have a solid axle in the rear.

But anyways, I see the good, and I also see the many bad things to the newer bikes having IRS for a rear.

 

[08700xx]

I've heard many times that quads are only illegal on the roads because they have a solid axle in the rear. (quoted from dj300ex)

That is a different type of solid axle. By that it means that both rear wheels turn exactly together. That is still true with the IRS quads. You are talking about a SRA or straight rear axle quad. That is the difference.

 

[SYKO]

Independent Rear Suspension

That's what I though, because when I went to the dealers and looked at a 2013 Honda 250, it had a rear end with a diff, and the motor was turned sideways to utilize a drive shaft to the rear diff.

I could see how this is a problem for racing or even fast trail riding against chain driven bikes. It makes the bike heavier, I lifted the rear on that 250 and it's way heavier then my 02 300EX or even 92 mojave 250.

But I do see the good in it, in the sense of it with the proper signal lights and stuff, would be potentially road legal. I've heard many times that quads are only illegal on the roads because they have a solid axle in the rear.

But anyways, I see the good, and I also see the many bad things to the newer bikes having IRS for a rear.

actually the 250ex is lighter than the 300ex and the majave both, it has the illusion of being heavy and lackluster but can be made into very capable machines such as my daughters.

Also Im enjoying this 700 thread... they still very much intrique me, while I love my 250R and how it rides and flies... I think a change may be comming... if my daughter goes to 450s like I think she will soon I may jump on a 700.... but being made only two years it may become its ultimate downfall...kinda like looking for trx type II rear plastic.... good luck...

 

[08700xx]

SYKO I also used to have a 310r. I miss my R terribly. But they both have their place. If I was going to go back to MX I would want the R. And the R is faster in the woods such as racing a GNCC. BUT I don't race much anymore. To go out and just enjoy riding and have a quad so comfortable that after riding a hundred miles in a day, I don't hurt nor am I stiff. The XX is the king. And although it doesn't have the top speed of the R, it is a torque monster and is pretty strong all the way up to around 75 mph or so and will top out around 95. And has that magic button that we all miss with the 2 strokes. I am a 47 year old guy who appreciates a little comfort now and it is still fast. Everyone who owns a 400 or 450 class machine wants to race again me when I take it out, and in a drag race the 450's will take them off of the line. but about the time I shift out of third they are running out of gears and I pull back along side of them and then I shift again. none of the 450 class machines are geared to run with the 700's. If you gear them the same they are about equal.
Now the best advice I can give anyone thinking of trying an IRS quad: Don't ride it once and make a decision. It took me about a month to learn to ride it. It is a totally different style of riding than anything you have ever done. They turn totally different. at the center of a turn the IRS is a little slower, but the entrance and exit of a turn are faster on the IRS so it about evens out. and the IRS is so much faster on rough (especially rocky) terrain than a SRA that it is hard to believe.

 

[Tainted300]

This is why I think they didn't sell very well. My friend bought one but got rid of it for reasons unrelated to the quad but it was a nice machine. I never liked the styling though but everything else about the quad was good.

 

[SYKO]

oh yea I understand about not just riding one time and making a asumption, yea my days of racing may be over but I still have hope my daughter wants me to race along side of her so we will see.

 

[FallOut]

Try putting it on the 700 xx forum that way you will be reaching all the 700 riders. You have got to be the first I’ve heard of to complain about how the 700 performs. All 700 owners I know love the quad because at the end of the day I can step off mine vice fall off the quad. And as for in the tight technical stuff I keep up or pass up 400 ex all day. Not because I’m a better rider it’s due to power and clearance. And as stated before run me on the drag strip all you will see is my fat ass. Just my .02 08 700 xx owner. Oh that is a nice quad dude!!!

 

[Dj300EX]

Wouldn't have guessed it is lighter then the 300ex or Mojave?

Maybe overall its lighter. but as far as comparing rear ends, IRS is heavier.

 

[08700xx]

FallOut I'm not saying so much as they handle bad, as maybe the right way to say it is they handle different. And do to mine being lowered It is 51 inches wide. I don't know about where you are but around here that makes it tough to get through the tight woods trails. Alot of places I have to pick a new line from what everyone else rides because my quad won't fit between two trees. Now when I get out on logging roads and that type of trails the XX is king. But around here we have more of the really tight stuff. And thanks I really like it.

 

[08700xx]

Dj300ex which post are you responding to? The one that stated that the 250x is lighter than a 300? Well of course the 250 was kickstart. Other than that tho the 250x and the 300ex are identical. I have owned both and the only differences are the kick VS electric start and the displacement.

And yes IRS is much heavier than SRA. The 700XX is about 100 lbs heavier than a 300ex some is the IRS and some is the bigger motor, and of course the frame is bigger also.

 

[hammer0630]

The reason you can't sell it is your asking $4000.00.

 

[Phil_RC_1]

The reason you can't sell it is your asking $4000.00.

Where do people get these crazy asking prices for quads?
I'm not trying to pick on the liftedhigh. $4K for a XX isn't too far off the mark but IMHO it is about $1K too high.

Book values have served as a pricing "guideline" for cars and motorcycles for years but people tend to ignore NADA and Kelly when it comes to Quad values. :icon_question:

NADA and Kelly Blue book are both free and online. Check them both to get a realistic ballpark of what your quad is actually worth.

As an example, On my local CL (Nashville area) I see outrageous asking prices all the time. People even have the gall to make statements like "NO LOW BALLING, I KNOW WHAT MY QUAD IS WORTH!!" like a guy asking $3500 for a 2001 400ex :icon_ laughup: I don't care how good the condition is, or what modifications you've done, a 2001 EX is NOT worth $3500. But this is the good ole USA, everyone is free to ask what they want, just don't expect anyone to actually buy it if your price is unrealistic!

sorry , I got off on a tangent/rant. My apologies, no offense intended to anyone specifically.

 

[dr. feelgood]

I suggested this weeks ago in this very thread (http://www.hondaatvforums.net/forums/honda-trx/37252-what-s-wrong-trx-700xx-2.html#post338325)

A shortcoming of Craigslist is when you are searching to get an idea of what your machine is worth all you see are the items that are NOT selling. The ones priced right go pretty quick (at least in my experience), and CL prefers that you remove them, not put SOLD in the title. That is why I suggested the eBay completed items search

Rob

 

[whynot]

Hey lifted I will trade you a nice 07 trx 450 for it.I will even throw in some cash to help with delivery or meeting up. you can check out the 450 it s in great shape nothing wrong with it at all, I traded a 700 for it and regret it because it doesnt have reverse and plus I am a heavy guy and it is hard to be picking up the 450 to turn it around lol. text me 1-440-251-3500 I can send you pics, it has nerf bars s&s rims new tires all the way around.
mike

 

[M_Quick]

I've had my 700xx for 3.5 years now. Paid $4250 for it new off the floor. And when you trade anything in including cars, trucks, they don't give you squat for your upgrades. All that have this quad, if you haven't yet please look at the L8ton rear sway bar! L8ton Racing


Nada says your price is in the ball park, for retail but probably a tad high for private selling.

2008 Honda TRX700XX8 Standard Equipment, 2008 Honda TRX700XX8 Price & Specs | NADAguides

 

[08700xx]

As an XX owner, I think your price is in the right area also. The problem is most people don't realize what a great quad these are. Good luck with your sale.

 

[SYKO]

I think later this year im going to go hunt me a 700xx, I think Im really in the game on one especialy with these twisty tight Georgia trails we got