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oil temp switch/sensor is bad ?, or not a clean connection to it ?. I can't remember if that year has the alarm box mounted beside the c.d.i. ?, if it does ?, it has green connections on it.

 

my confusion is that when I unplug the wire from the switch the light stays on so I think one of the wires is grounded on the frame or shorted out. Causing it to stay lit. I had a similar issue with my neutral safety switch but it wasn't getting a ground at all and I had to rewire it. I plan on running a new wire from the oil switch to the control box mounted under the handle bars. But I wanna make sure my switch is good first

 

When the switch detects it getting hot that's when it sends the ground signal to the oil temp light correct?

 

does not send anything, it acts like a light switch, when the oil gets to hot ?, it pretty much closes, this acts like it grounds out, this then turns the light on.

 

I have the plug disconnected that runs tge reverse neutral and oil light. But oil light is still on that's why im assuming it's ground out where it shouldnt be

 

I have the plug disconnected that runs tge reverse neutral and oil light. But oil light is still on that's why im assuming it's ground out where it shouldnt be

does your model have the alarm box under the front fender next to the c.d.i. ?.

 

That's what i mean by ground signal sorry I've been working at a Honda car dealership and still have the newer car language stuck in my brain!

 

lol, next you will wonder how the stator makes AC voltage, and yet every part on it runs from 12 volt dc !..lol. no worries bro .

 

Possibly there's two there ones bigger and ones smaller

 

ok then, yes, you have a alarm box !, when your oil light stays on ?, and switch is good ?, that alarm box goes bad, unplug it, I bet the light goes out ?!. . DO NOT LEAVE IT UNPLUGGED/REMOVED !, that box shuts your c.d.i. down in the case of an over heat from lack of oil !.

 

I unplugged it and plugged a brand-new one in that I had sitting around( I ordered parts for my uncle's to put on for my grandfather to have it but haven't been able to make the 5 hour drive); and the oil light came right back on.

 

I unplugged it and plugged a brand-new one in that I had sitting around( I ordered parts for my uncle's to put on for my grandfather to have it but haven't been able to make the 5 hour drive); and the oil light came right back on.

ok, plug that connector back in from the wire harness, reach down, and pull the connector off the switch itself, its the switch at the front behind the metal cover, should be one wire going to it ?, unplug it from the switch with the key off !, turn the key on, light should be off ?, when you touch the wire to the engine, then the oil light should come back on ?. if this goes like I say ?, then plug the switch back in ( key off first ) turn key on, if light remains on ?, then your oil temp switch is bad.

 

With everything plugged back in and plug removed from the main switch under the cover the light remains on. That's why I think there's a burnt wire or a damaged wire. The neutral light wouldn't come on at all and I couldn't use electric start so I had to wire it around and back into the main wire box on the forkand now lights on in neutral and only in neutral so I'm thinking the oil temp light is along the same issue

 

Also if I take my test light connected to 12v and touch it to the plug itself it's lighting up saying that the plug is grounded out without even being hooked up

 

hold on a sec...what are you, or where are you putting the test light ?, harness side ?, or switch side ?, the switch will not be hot if your test light is clipped to the engine, and not the hot side of battery ?!. only the wire to the switch will be hot with key on if test light is clipped to engine for ground, or neg on battery.

 

With my clip to the positive battery terminal and the probe to the harness plug it's showing that the harness itsself is grounded out with an old cheap off-road light attached to the positive terminal I touched the ground wire to the plug that is on the harness and my off-road light came on confirming that the harness itself is grounded somewhere that it shouldn't be.

 

With my clip to the positive battery terminal and the probe to the harness plug it's showing that the harness itsself is grounded out with an old cheap off-road light attached to the positive terminal I touched the ground wire to the plug that is on the harness and my off-road light came on confirming that the harness itself is grounded somewhere that it shouldn't be.

ok, there is your problem !. hook your test light to the neg on battery ?, or the engine itself, you want a ground to start with. turn the key on, put the test light to the end of the oil temp wire, the test light should light up ?, this is how all Honda's work !. the neutral, reverse, and oil temp switches are always hot at all times !. when you go to neutral ?, you ground the internal side of the switch by the shifting parts inside right there, same goes for the reverse, the wire connection is always hot, so, when you go to reverse ?, your grounding the reverse hot wire, or in this case, the switch inside the case contacts, and grounds the hot lead, which makes the light on the dash come on. same thing goes for the oil temp switch..BUT !!!!!, the oil temp switch does not use any parts to make a connection to ground !!!, it is ohm'ed out !!, this is what makes the oil temp switch light up your oil temp light on the dash . if your switch is bad ?, or you have a short between the light on the dash to the switch ?, this is what is causing your light to remain on, pretty simple to understand .

 

I guess you could say I'm checking everything backward in order to locate the issue since I have a light that won't go out even after disconnected ground I'm trying to trace the wire for the unwanted ground.

 

Thanks guys! I'll look into it in the AM!

 

your welcome, please post back on your findings !!.

 

Alright guys so I don't have a multimeter at the moment but with key on and key off I'm not getting any power out of the switch itself and still don't see how the light will stay on with the key on and the plug disconnected from two or three different spots in the line.

 

If you are putting a test light on the oil temp sensor plug and your test light glows brightly...? That indicates a shorted oil temp sensor doesn't it... also known as junk. LOL

Keep in mind that you are not working on a switched circuit... there is no such thing as on and off... it works by varying resistance. I saw that you were approaching this all wrong... that is why I jumped in. Unless you are going to replace parts until it finally works, you'll need to find an ohm meter and diagnose it.

 

Yeah, definitely let us know how it goes if ya can... there is a wiring diagram in the back of the service manual that might be helpful for getting your harness fixed back up too!

 

I will! I'm gonna continue trying to figure it out tonight. Wife is mad at everyone and everything and I've been dammed to the garage for a bit so here's to a good night of grease and dirt! Lol I'll keep y'all posted thanks again!

 

Alright guys I went thru all the wireing and found a screwy wire replaced the section now the light is off and doesn't come on with the key. Is that correct? I remember hearing it's supposed to come on momentarily as a systems test but is that when you start it or just with key on. It's becoming clear that someone did a bunch of wireing on this that knew less then I do

 

sounds like you got it fixed !!..good job !.

 

So it does come on with the key and turn off a second later? I thought it was supposed to but it's not doing it here. I might go ahead and replace the switch just to be safe! Thanks for all the help!

 

most Honda's , when you first turn the key on, the oil temp light comes on for a few sec's, then goes off, this takes place during the key on, or while cranking it over, by then, the light should be off . and your welcome.

 

and it's not uncommon for the oil temp sensors to go bad !.

 

Hey guys oil light aside for a minute I got the bike running. Well iddleing. But it dies at half throttle I put a brand new carb on it.and when it idles it will die after a few minutes. Any ideas?

 

lotsssssssssssss of ideas !..lol. ( you are in great hands here on the forums ). bad gas ?, tank vent closed ? ( gas cap ), carb dirty ?, petcock clogged or dirty ?, jets clogged ?, this a new oem carb ?, or some stupid china crap you got on ebay ?. air filter clean ?. best bet ?, start at the tank, drain, flush, clean tank, work your way to the carb !. if ya got a stupid china carb on it ?, and still have the oem carb ?, buy a carb rebuild kit, shindy or moose makes great kits, either one is good, and cheaper than going to the Honda dealer, and buying oem parts separate !..lol. very good carb cleaning stickys in the repair section !, if ya get stumped ?, ask away !, lots of great members here always willing to help !. don't be afraid to ask questions ?, the worse, stupidest question ?..IS THE ONE YOU DON'T ASK !!..LOL.

 

My guess is possibly water in the gas so I'm gonna try that this weekend. And yes it's a China carb? wife made me stay to a tight budget. I bought he same one for my grandfather and put it on his four-wheeler and it worked perfectly. And as far as the stock carb..it's toast had some caps missing and is fully rusted out.

 

china carbs are worthless.

 

Also I have my airbox pulled off right now could lack of back pressure on the carb cause that?

 

no, I've ran them without the air box. if the carb and everything else is right ?, then they will run without the air box even on.

 

Alright I'll look at the carb tomorrow and tear it down and clean it and check everything.! Hard to work on it with a 2 year old running around.! Also just right quick is there a way for me to get notified when someone replies to me?

 

yep, go into your account settings, should be a box to check to let you know if someone replied to your thread .

 

Well guys she had water in the fuel! Got her running tip top now thanks everyone for the help

 

good deal, thanks for the update !. and yw .

 

And now I have no spark I drove it for a bit and then parked it and she won't start back. I've went thru the kill switch on the handlebar I've tried different coils I just don't know what to do.

 

And now I have no spark I drove it for a bit and then parked it and she won't start back. I've went thru the kill switch on the handlebar I've tried different coils I just don't know what to do.

is the neutral light on ?, it won't fire unless the neutral light is on. take the spark plug out, put it back in the spark plug boot wire, lay it on the engine, turn the key on, while cranking it over, wrap on the c.d.i., look to see if you get spark ?. if you all of a sudden get spark while doing this ?, your c.d.i. is bad.

 

Ok so I was able to get one spark this morning after leaving it alone all night. But only got one spark after that I'm back to nothing. Neutral light is on.

 

wrap on the c.d.i. while cranking it over, with the spark plug out, laying on the engine, get spark then ?, your c.d.i. is bad !.