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I have decided to start looking for a 4x4 atv at a decent price that will still fit in a 6'6" truck bed with a toolbox. I have found a 2010 rancher, 4x4, manual shift, power steering, lifted, snorkel, mud tires and mag wheels. And a few other things. The guy wants $3,300 for it but it is in the shop at this time having some work done to the power steering and an oil change. He has told me he may have to go up on the price depending on what the problem is with the power steering. I have known this person for at least 16 or so years, and I know he wouldn't lie to me. Plus the shop the atv is in, is also a dealer so I personally saw the atv being worked on while I was looking into a 2017 rancher. If he does go up on price I estimate it to be between $3,300 to about $3,800.

I just had a few questions:

How reliable is the throttle body injection on the newer models?

Is this atv worth the price?

Will it still fit in the back of my truck? (1994 GMC K1500, single cab, short bed, with a toolbox.)

How reliable is the honda EPS system? (if you could give me some insight on the system, what to look out for, what usually causes problems, etc. that would be great)
 

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Definitely not. I can barely fit a 300 in the 6.5ft box on my Ram with no toolbox. If it was an 8ft bed then maybe.

EPS is very reliable, I've never really seen anybody have issues with it. I've never had any issues myself either. When it does fail it basically just reverts to manual steering.
 

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I don't know why you are asking opinions as to whether a given ATV will fit in your truck bed. If that is an important issue to you, and to avoid any unpleasant surprises, you need to measure the available space and compare that to a measurement of the length of the ATV.
 

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most modern atv's will NOT fit and allow you to close the tailgate on a 6.5 ft bed , WITHOUT a tool box in the bed, so, on that NO< won't fit, BUT< it SHOULD fit in bed, with tailgate down, or be DARN close, will come down to how deep your tool box is!
the bigger the tires the less likely it will fit however,a s they will make the atv LONGER.

as for is the ATV worth the asking price, that's a load question, as part of it will always be what its worth to YOU, and NOT me

to me NO, and MY reasons are different than those of many!
BIG tires,aggressive tires, snorkles to me are BIG NO NO's in my ATV world
reasons are , right off the bat, BIG tires work a motor a LOT harder than stock like tires,
them BIG mud tires and snorkle , tend to mean its been used as a boat, which means HIGH odds this atv was sunk at some point in its life time!
which could mean down the road, big costly motor issue's for you!
its just the nature of the beast in the way many RIDE there atv's

could be in shop for very reason right now too??

there is NOTHING like owning a ATV its whole life(or rebuilding it from ground up I gather) as THEN you know what was or wasn;'t done to it.
all very important info to have IMO!
buying used will ALWAYS be a gamble, the bigger the tires and such, HIGHER the odds of loosing IMO!
others can disagree with me, but all the posts of sunk atv's say other wise LOL
or treads about buying a used atv and having issue's afterwards!
 

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Its not a huge deal to me, I own a trailer. The main reason for this post was to see if anyone could tell me anything about the EPS system. I just threw the other questions in to gain insight about the newer model atv that honda is making.

which also brings me to another question, in the event that the EPS malfunctions, is it normally expensive to fix? and would it be something that can be done at home? I am ASE certified in Automotive technologies, so I am experienced. But have not done any work on ATV. Mostly cars.
 

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I personally don't know of any issue's with EPS on honda's or any other atv's to be honest!
in the early yrs I think some were a little FASTER than wanted, but been pretty reliable
oversized tires can work it harder, but gather its a BIG perk to have with them bigger tires? so a trade off

never worked on EPS on a honda, but doubt its that complicated, that a decent tool turner couldn;t handle it

you can always down load a service manual and have a look too, to see what all is involved in it?
ALL the posters that have EPS on an ATV, I know of almost ZERO that would ever want an ATV without it, once they have it, SO I think that says a LOT of good about them, over any bad LOL

being able to fix and work on an ATV yourself, can be a HUGE cost factor in buying used, ca you can do a LOT of repairs with having to pay 70-100 bucks an hr in labor, which many cannot do any more!
 

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Its not a huge deal to me, I own a trailer. The main reason for this post was to see if anyone could tell me anything about the EPS system. I just threw the other questions in to gain insight about the newer model atv that honda is making.

which also brings me to another question, in the event that the EPS malfunctions, is it normally expensive to fix? and would it be something that can be done at home? I am ASE certified in Automotive technologies, so I am experienced. But have not done any work on ATV. Mostly cars.
I would guess that the EPS unit itself would be what fails, probably not repairable just sold as an assembly, so it would be just a matter of replacing the part. I do not know if the new unit would have to be calibrated or programmed in the ECM? If so this would have to be done by the dealer. There is service manuals available somewhere on this site which would outline the procedures.
 

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I agree with the suggestion of reading the service manual to find out more about the power steering section. It would tell you about the special tools (if any) that would be required. Reading the trouble shooting section would give you a feel for how complicated it might be to fix. My 2015 Foreman has power steering and hasn't given me any trouble yet. I really like having power steering, but my needs may be different than yours. A large part of my use involves pulling a small trailer through the woods to collect firewood, so power steering helps a lot with low speed maneuverability.
 
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