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Finally upgraded my wheels and tires from Stock. Went with 26" from 25" Havent rode except down my drive and do notice a slight difference on performance as there heavy compared to the stockers. What do you think? ITP SS212 wheels and Sedona Rip Saw 26x9x12/26x11x12.
 

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Foreman’s will always cope with a larger tyre better than a rancher as first gear is lower ratio. I run 28” skinny mega mayhems on my foreman 450 and it copes very well indeed even in the thick peanut butter gloop.
Realistically speaking though, I wouldn’t advise bigger than a 27” on any Honda without a GR.
 

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looks nice
and slight power loss.handling, is just part of the game going larger IMO
at 36, it shouldn;t much I would think
but its sure there, cannot beat science!
 

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Nice look...I was thinking 25's for my Rancher 420,but after much research have decided to stay with 24's.
I put 25" Maxxis Zillas on my Rancher 420 and didnt notice much, if any performance difference. The reason i went with the Zillas is because there one of the lightest mud tires made.
@Tunafish101 - Looks Good!!

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On these low horsepower Hondas, the weight of the wheel assemblies compromises the power as much as the circumference does..........probably more. As I stated in another post recently I went up one inch on my Rancher by installing a new set of Foreman wheels. They are identical except for being one inch taller. I've noticed just a very slight power loss......very small. I'm happy with the decision. I remember back about five years ago my youngest daughter's boyfriend had an 07 Rancher with big wide tires ( don't remember the size except that they were one inch taller) That wheeler had noticeably less power than my 08 Rancher. Having ridden the same wheeler with several combinations of tire and wheel sizes, I can say with confidence that your wheeler can run a taller tire and wheel with no problem as long as it is a light (stock) tire.
 

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Yes I'm noticing that unfortunely, they are quite a bit heavier. I'm running over to Az. next week for some riding, I'll find out for sure then. I noticed the weight when I took the stock ones over to the shop to store.










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I’m quite surprised that your disappointed in the results going up to 26” tyres. As I mentioned, I run 28’s, although there’s a substantial difference I didn’t think it was all that bad, I find my 450 equally as powerful as my fathers 500 foreman which is bone stock.

Have you had this foreman a long time? Would it be worthwhile checking compression and adjusting valve lash? Just wondering if your down on power at all.

I do feel your pain though buddy, when I got my first 300 fourtrax I bought some aggressive mud tyres thinking they’d be awesome and I’d never get stuck. How wrong was I..!! It didn’t have the power to turn them in the peanut butter gloopy mud, ended up selling them and throwing tons of cash at it and eventually built myself a great mud bike.
 

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My buddies wifes' 420 has 28s on it , with no reduction , she does really good on it , I have never rode it , so I don't have a clue how much them tires choke it down , I rode my 450 with 29.5s with no reduction and to tell the truth it wasn't much difference going from 27s to 29.5 , but the 450 I find is low geared to start with to me ------ I know there were 2 different wheel base 420s , don't know if the engine outputs were different
 

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I’m quite surprised that your disappointed in the results going up to 26” tyres. As I mentioned, I run 28’s, although there’s a substantial difference I didn’t think it was all that bad, I find my 450 equally as powerful as my fathers 500 foreman which is bone stock.

Have you had this foreman a long time? Would it be worthwhile checking compression and adjusting valve lash? Just wondering if your down on power at all.

I do feel your pain though buddy, when I got my first 300 fourtrax I bought some aggressive mud tyres thinking they’d be awesome and I’d never get stuck. How wrong was I..!! It didn’t have the power to turn them in the peanut butter gloopy mud, ended up selling them and throwing tons of cash at it and eventually built myself a great mud bike.
I've had it since new and always serviced as required, runs like a champ. Not down on power. The new Rip saws weigh 38.9 and 32.6 lbs. and that's just the tires. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
 

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Decided I screwed up so going to sell, must pick up as I won't ship. if interested PM me

https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/snw/d/joshua-tree-want-to-trade-or-sell/6809823620.html.
What tires you gonna try this time?
haven't decided yet, need to do something with the heavy Rip Saws first, put the stock back on for now. guarantee they will be lighter. Open for suggestions.
I myself would stay with 25's you have a good selection of rims and tires to choose from.Sure you could find a nice setup for your Bike.
 

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Mudlites a re a decent tyre, as are bear claws, both lightweight and do well in most conditions.
 

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As for now I'll just keep my stock on till I can recoop the $ on the Rip Saws.
So were the Rip Saws so heavy that you had actual bogging down problems? Or did you just not like how it responds and the acceleration you are able to get with them?

Yes they are super heavy tires. Probably a little heavier than the 26" bighorn knockoffs I put on my Grizzly (421cc). While it did hurt the acceleration some on my grizzly, they are nowhere near being actually too heavy for the machine to turn them. The added traction is still worth it to me.
 

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The new Rip Saws weigh 38.9 and 32.6 lbs. and that's just the tires. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
According to the many weight/inertia tables around . . .
Each pound of tire weight above stock is the equivalent of 2 lbs. on the racks.

Each pound of rim weight above stock is the equivalent of 1.6 lbs. on the racks.

OEM front steel wheel = 10 lbs.
OEM rear steel wheel = 12 lbs.

OEM front Dunlop tire = 14 lbs.
OEM rear Dunlop tire = 16 lbs.

Tires/wheels for 450S Foreman.
 
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