[whiskerfisher]

I went and looked at a sweet looking 2001 Foreman 450. This thing is clean and plastics are in great shape.
Only thing I noticed out of the ordinary was the amount of hours and miles on the machine. Hours were like over 50,000 and the mileage was over 34,000. Now I know this is wrong. Has anybody seen the odometer and hour meter go haywire and log an excessive amount of time & hours. If so what is the fix for it???

 

[shadetree]

it's posb the owner replaced the display/meter with a used display/meter ??. other than this ?, maybe you read the display/meter wrong ?. there is no way that motor got 50k hours on it, and 34k miles....if thats what your asking ?, .

 

[shadetree]

the fix ?..well..you got to choices, one : replace with a brand new meter, which will show zero miles/hours, two: buy another used meter/display. either way..this is your only choice. the dealer will not roll it back..if thats what your thinking ?. when I rebuild my motors, I always replace the meter/display with a brand new part, its always zero hours, zero miles, well..why not..the motor is rebuilt, brand new !..lol.

 

[Jeepwm69]

I've seen some posted over the years that had electrical issues and had the miles/hours jump way up.

 

[mrbb]

I have a skid steer that the hour meter gets to about 1545 hours and then jumps back to about 1499 hours or so and , never the same at the jump back point?
so I gather like any other part on an atv, things can go bonkers and do funny things

I have over the yrs seen some foreman's that had a LOT of hours and miles on them too
never that many, but have seen some with over 20,000 miles, just not that many hours! some of them ranchers out west have a LOT of ground they cover daily and many let things idle for LONG period of time, but 50,000 hours seems insane, without having to have to do a bunch of motor work over them hours, but anything again is possible if you ask me that;s like little over 7 hours of run time, every day for 18 yrs LOL that would be a LOT of running
but again NOT impossible, add in some 10-14+ hour days, and a DIE hard owner that likes to keep fixing it when down time is there HAHAHA!
have to ask, what does the overall condition of the atv be like?

 

[M_Quick]

Did you leave out a decimal point?

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[whiskerfisher]

The guy that has it is the 2nd owner and he hasn't done anything with the hour meter. He has had it for 8 yrs and he has rode very little. The 1st owner was an older gentleman and all he did with it was ride fence lines on his 200 acre farm.
I'm going back this every to look it over again. I'll get a pic of the meter.
Sounds like an electrical issue to me.
My question is if I put a new meter on it is it going to keep logging in excessive hrs/miles.

 

[_Wilson_]

Mrbb ... Was the meter a Hobbs ..... Ive Had the same issue with a 6620 JD combine (electrical issue) it ran the separator hours up to around 5,000 hours ....

 

[whiskerfisher]

Went back and looked at the 450 Foreman. Here's the pic of the hour meter/odometer

 

[mrbb]

Mrbb ... Was the meter a Hobbs ..... Ive Had the same issue with a 6620 JD combine (electrical issue) it ran the separator hours up to around 5,000 hours ....

sorry to OP about getting off topic
but as for the meter, I have no clue what brand it is, its all built into the OEM dash display system, I never fixed it, just don't care to be honest LOL
I do pm's as I feel needed and last yr or so been having a bunch of failures that has has me replacing a bunch of things on it,
it gets very little use, so, not too worried about not knowing hours accurately now, , just said what I did to show that YES a meter can go bad!

 

[TBRider]

There is someone who can roll it back in Alaska.


https://www.hondaforeman.com/128-foreman-450/164035-450-es-speedometer-fix.html

 

[shadetree]

There is someone who can roll it back in Alaska.


https://www.hondaforeman.com/128-foreman-450/164035-450-es-speedometer-fix.html

I could be wrong here ?, ( happens a lot ! ) but isn't fooling with ( rolling od's and hours ) illegal ???. seems to me, thats the same thing as rolling your cars od back ?..hmmm..me thinks I would not try this here in the states. maybe the laws are different in Canada ?..but down here..they frown on this kinda stuff !..lol.

 

[mrbb]

I don't really see the point if its wrong and you know itr, you will never know what the real miles hours are
I'd be more incline to maybe FIX the deal, so from here out you can track things, if you wanted
or, as I do on many things, I do PM's based on how I used the machine, more hard use, things get changes more often and sooner?
less use, and I go a little longer
many times its off the built in hour counter in my butt LOL, over looking at any gauge or display ! I tend to be the only one that runs my equipment, so I know how hard I worked something or not
but I do think having a working set up, does make life easier, would have to come down to what the costs would be to correct, if worth them or not maybe?

 

[whiskerfisher]

I'd rather pay $25 for someone put 317 hours/1800 miles on the guage I have than pay $250-$300 to put a new guage with 0 miles/hours

 

[mrbb]

I'd rather pay $25 for someone put 317 hours/1800 miles on the gauge I have than pay $250-$300 to put a new gauge with 0 miles/hours

right but if you reset a gauge and there is a issue with it adding up hours and miles out of the norm, resetting ti to what ever, will NOT make anything any better, and all you did was waste 25 bucks NO??
if you want the gauge to work and track, it needs to be fixed so it works correctly, or your just wasting money IMO

 

[mac102004]

A lot of the old 450's had issues with the odometer going crazy when the machine sat and the battery went flat.

I would have no issue having the factory ODO reprogrammed and just make sure you don't let it sit with a dead battery, or it might happen again.

Yes odometer fraud is illegal in most places BUT, first of all it's an offroad vehicle not on-road, they are really not regulated. Secondly, the definition of "Odometer fraud" is "altering the odometer or hourmeter readings to make it appear the vehicle has lower milage than it actually does and falsely represent the vehicles actual milage."

Now, since the actual milage on an offroad vehicle is not tracked, there is no way to prove anything has been tampered with, and also your intent is to actually modify the odometer to more accurately represent the actual milage, there is nothing nefarious about that.

 

[billy5221]

I'm not saying it's legal, but what's the difference if you buy a brand new dash with zero miles or having someone roll it back?

 

[mrbb]

I'm not saying it's legal, but what's the difference if you buy a brand new dash with zero miles or having someone roll it back?

I think the game of this would lay some where in the fraud depts view, ,as in a vehicle, if you do, you would need to legally state you diod so

on an ATV, pending where you live,(as some places they are street legal machines)
I imagine you would need to legally declare that you did so replace with a new OD
I am sure most would never so so

but I can say here in PA< atv's and snowmobiles, are titled and amount of miles is marked on the titles when they change owners
so, if I say sold one that suddenly had less miles than when I GOT it
I am sure someone some where could make a fuss, but don't think most would go thru the costs to pursue things in court!

its a Grey area in life maybe LOL

me, being a fairly honest guy, if I DID replace things, I would tell a buyer I did so(I have actually done this on a few snowmobiles that I replaced OD's on) but I still had old one's , replaced due ti all beat up and scratched up like, not for not working right though! LOL

 

[billy5221]

I'm not saying it's legal, but what's the difference if you buy a brand new dash with zero miles or having someone roll it back?

I think the game of this would lay some where in the fraud depts view, ,as in a vehicle, if you do, you would need to legally state you diod so

on an ATV, pending where you live,(as some places they are street legal machines)
I imagine you would need to legally declare that you did so replace with a new OD
I am sure most would never so so

but I can say here in PA< atv's and snowmobiles, are titled and amount of miles is marked on the titles when they change owners
so, if I say sold one that suddenly had less miles than when I GOT it
I am sure someone some where could make a fuss, but don't think most would go thru the costs to pursue things in court!

its a Grey area in life maybe LOL

me, being a fairly honest guy, if I DID replace things, I would tell a buyer I did so(I have actually done this on a few snowmobiles that I replaced OD's on) but I still had old one's , replaced due ti all beat up and scratched up like, not for not working right though! LOL

I see, some states record miles. In Wisconsin all we have is the DNR registration card, it's the title if you want to call it that, you get a new one every 2 years when you renew your license. If you sell that's all you sign and there's no miles recored.

 

[shadetree]

I'm not saying it's legal, but what's the difference if you buy a brand new dash with zero miles or having someone roll it back?

pretty simple. when you put a brand new dash on, you have done this for a couple reasons: one, the old display stopped working ?, two, you do it like me when you rebuild the motor, new motor, new miles.