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I'm having to rebuild my top end. I was looking for advice on wether to buy all Honda parts or buy one of the top end rebuild kits I see every where online. Anyone have any experience with some of the kits you can get online?
 

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Are you replacing the whole top end or just putting in a new piston kit? I've used Wiseco piston kits with good results. I would recommend them or OEM. Kits will run around $100, then expect to spend $50-75 for a matching bore, and around $30 for a top end gasket kit. If you have major damage and are replacing the cylinder and/or head expect to spend more. I've never used any aftermarket cylinders/heads if that's what you're asking about so I can't comment on that.

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I've used a lot of them $40 piston rings gasket and everything needed off eBay and never had a problem, even bought a kit that included a whole new jug and everything else for $80'with good results. I personally like Namura, but they run about double, $80 for the piston, rings, and gaskets. But when I run across so many 350 Ranchers that smoke the $40 kit seems the way to go.
 

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I'm replacing the cylinder, piston, rings and gasket. I see all these kits on eBay and other sites with everything ranging from 90-200 dollars. I talked to Honda and they quoted me like 640 for everything.
 

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I've used a lot of them $40 piston rings gasket and everything needed off eBay and never had a problem, even bought a kit that included a whole new jug and everything else for $80'with good results. I personally like Namura, but they run about double, $80 for the piston, rings, and gaskets. But when I run across so many 350 Ranchers that smoke the $40 kit seems the way to go.

I'm guessing the 350 ranchers have an issue with smoking?? Had mine forever and it just started smoking recently
 

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I'm having to rebuild my top end. I was looking for advice on wether to buy all Honda parts or buy one of the top end rebuild kits I see every where online. Anyone have any experience with some of the kits you can get online?
2006 Rancher 350? Or 400?
 

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I've wondered how well those $100 top ends would hold up. I've thought about trying one just to see. I would expect it to fail quickly, but you never know. I've had a cheap $12 china carb run for years on a Honda air compressor motor.

G&H does good work if your existing cylinder is good.

If you need to buy all new Honda East Toledo is the cheapest place to get new OEM parts. Email [email protected] and he'll hook you up.
 

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I'm guessing the 350 ranchers have an issue with smoking?? Had mine forever and it just started smoking recently
Don't forget to replace valve seals while you have the head off.... age and heat gets to them.


Yes I'm going to just replace it all since I'm going to have it off...thanks everyone for the input
 

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Gratz71 no... I buy an sell Honda atvs and buy a lot of 350 Ranchers, most of them smoke, wether it's because of how much they've been used, sunk, and occasionally ran out of oil. All the above kills rings.

Jeepwm69 as far as how well they hold up, I have no idea, but the amazon reviews are good lol! Never kept one long enough to see, though I haven't ever had a caplain about one that I've sold, but you never know.
 

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I might have to try one. My neighbor is a cheapskate (even by my standards) and I rebuilt a 350 for him a while back and while I went through and cleaned out the bottom end, new timing chain, new seals, he wanted to just hone the cylinder and slap in new rings and see if it would hold.

As you might guess, he's using oil. Not a lot, but he's hemmed and hawed around about spending money ($200ish) to have the cylinder bored with a new piston and top end gaskets

Maybe I can talk him into one of the cheap aftermarket kits
 

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ive seen those cheap kits also available for grizzly/rhino 660 motors.

they're stupid cheap. $230 for piston, cylinder and camshaft.

i'd be very leery if I were keeping the machine for any extended period of time.....
 

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ive seen those cheap kits also available for grizzly/rhino 660 motors.

they're stupid cheap. $230 for piston, cylinder and camshaft.

i'd be very leery if I were keeping the machine for any extended period of time.....
Welllll, on the one hand, I agree with you, which is why I sent my 350 OEM cylinder off and had it bored .50 over with a new piston.

But on the other hand, if my neighbor wants to be a cheap azz, I can let him be the guinea pig and if it works, great. Then we know it works. If it doesn't work, I'll have his OEM cylinder off and can send it to the machine shop to have it bored while he can still use his Rancher in the meantime.
 

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I've gotten by many times with just a good honing using my Flex-Hone and a $20 set of Namura Rings, on several machines that I've kept a while, and others that sold 2 days later. My dad who has taught me everything I know (except this forums lol) (I love them), and he worked in a Tractor shop many yrs, he's taught me the in and outs of that's acceptable to reuse and such, I would probably never have succeeded at this for a living without his knowledge.
 

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I've gotten by many times with just a good honing using my Flex-Hone and a $20 set of Namura Rings, on several machines that I've kept a while, and others that sold 2 days later. My dad who has taught me everything I know (except this forums lol) (I love them), and he worked in a Tractor shop many yrs, he's taught me the in and outs of that's acceptable to reuse and such, I would probably never have succeeded at this for a living without his knowledge.
I was hoping it might work for him, but when I found pea gravel in the bottom end I figured the cylinder might be a little too worn for just a set of rings to fix it.
 

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Undoubtedly a good assumption, I did something similar recently, bought an 05 350, kid I bought it off of was pretty "fishe". From what I gathered he bought it, and put new rings in it, which didn't fix it (still smoking) but he ran it until... he ran it a "little Low on oil". To which by no surprise, it lost all compression. So I bought it for a little more than what the tires was worth. Pulled the jug off and I guess the heat caused the piston to shatter. Pulled the motor, took off both ends, and used 5 cans of Brake Cleaner getting all the chunks out, no play in the rod bearing or wist pin (I love Honda), new jug, piston and such and she was running great. Sold it yesterday for $1600.
 

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Very nice. That's what this one should look like when I'm through with it.

I got it for $300. Swingarm bearings were gone, no top end (cylinder and head disappeared) at all, but the rest of it looked to be in great shape. ODO shows a little over 2K miles.
 
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