[flintforever]

I have these old tire on the quad for a long time any one have any idea how to break the bead on the tires
I have a bead breaker but no luck I tried soapy water seem it slip out of the rim slot .I tried also filling the tire with a 1 pound of air so the tire wall will not be that soft but no luck
I think the muck and dirt over the years in the rim is not helping
any ideas?

 

[Helmut]

If you have access to a dozer or loader, you can set the blade or bucket down on the tire, up against the rim, and brake them down real easy. If you don't have access to one, it would probably be a lot easier to take them somewhere that changes them. They can be a real pain if you don't have the right equipment.

 

[TRX2fiveO]

Agreed ^^^^ you also can try a little gas that will soften the bead some.

 

[Pyetime]

Take it to a tire shop they'll take care of it for cheap.

 

[mud99]

I use to take mine to wal mart.

 

[flintforever]

I give it a shot one more time I think I may try a heat gun to soften the bead I want to reuse 2 of them other wise I would take a die grinder to the steel belt.I just may take them to the shop but we have a lot of Quads and small tires both on a boat trailer and a few open body trailers.
I thought it would pay for it self but I can't win with the manual machine
Hey if it don't work I will be sending it back for a refund from harbor frieght
Portable Tire Changer

 

[FOXRIDER3361]

I used a mini excavatior and a peice of 8in water main pipe to apply the pressure on the bead it was a pain in the ass!!!!!!

 

[Helmut]

I give it a shot one more time I think I may try a heat gun to soften the bead I want to reuse 2 of them other wise I would take a die grinder to the steel belt.I just may take them to the shop but we have a lot of Quads and small tires both on a boat trailer and a few open body trailers.
I thought it would pay for it self but I can't win with the manual machine
Hey if it don't work I will be sending it back for a refund from harbor frieght
Portable Tire Changer

I have been thinking about buying one of those portable tire changers from Harbor Freight, but I wondered how well it would work. Now, I may pass on it, because that was the main reason I wanted it, to change ATV tires.

 

[shadetree]

they don't work worth a crap helmut !!..been there..done that !..as for getting your tire off..do what i do..the red neck way !!..with a car or truck..and a strong board..or you can just use the tire on your truck...lay the tire down on a hard surface..run your truck tire up as close to the rims edge as you can...back off of it..turn the atv tire just alittle at a time..do this over and over..sooner or later..the tire bead will break..trust me on this..i done my tires..they had the tires that came on the bike from the start...lol..it took me about 30 min's to do all of them..but..they did come off..oh..and if one side don't break..flip it over..work the other side...just watch your tires on your truck..don't punch the side walls out !..lol...keep us posted .

 

[shadetree]

on a side note..before you put the new tires on...take the rims..use a bench wire wheel..grind off all the rust...before to mount the new tires..grease up the rim beads real good..then grease the tire beads..it will make the tires go on sooooo much easier..and take off easier down the road.

 

[Helmut]

they don't work worth a crap helmut !!..been there..done that !..as for getting your tire off..do what i do..the red neck way !!..with a car or truck..and a strong board..or you can just use the tire on your truck...lay the tire down on a hard surface..run your truck tire up as close to the rims edge as you can...back off of it..turn the atv tire just alittle at a time..do this over and over..sooner or later..the tire bead will break..trust me on this..i done my tires..they had the tires that came on the bike from the start...lol..it took me about 30 min's to do all of them..but..they did come off..oh..and if one side don't break..flip it over..work the other side...just watch your tires on your truck..don't punch the side walls out !..lol...keep us posted .

I've tried it the way you do it and I've been able to break some tires down and some not. I've tried it that way and I've tried it by sitting the base of a bumper jack on the tire and jacking the truck up on the tire. Sometimes it will work and sometimes it won't. I think it depends a lot on the tires and how worn they are. To me, it's not worth the trouble of doing it that way. Easier to just take them somewhere and have it done.

 

[shadetree]

they don't work worth a crap helmut !!..been there..done that !..as for getting your tire off..do what i do..the red neck way !!..with a car or truck..and a strong board..or you can just use the tire on your truck...lay the tire down on a hard surface..run your truck tire up as close to the rims edge as you can...back off of it..turn the atv tire just alittle at a time..do this over and over..sooner or later..the tire bead will break..trust me on this..i done my tires..they had the tires that came on the bike from the start...lol..it took me about 30 min's to do all of them..but..they did come off..oh..and if one side don't break..flip it over..work the other side...just watch your tires on your truck..don't punch the side walls out !..lol...keep us posted .

I've tried it the way you do it and I've been able to break some tires down and some not. I've tried it that way and I've tried it by sitting the base of a bumper jack on the tire and jacking the truck up on the tire. Sometimes it will work and sometimes it won't. I think it depends a lot on the tires and how worn they are. To me, it's not worth the trouble of doing it that way. Easier to just take them somewhere and have it done.

when your on a tight budget..and we are talking tight here !..you try anything that don't cost alot of money...lol..if i can save 10 bucks..i'll do it..lol.

 

[Helmut]

they don't work worth a crap helmut !!..been there..done that !..as for getting your tire off..do what i do..the red neck way !!..with a car or truck..and a strong board..or you can just use the tire on your truck...lay the tire down on a hard surface..run your truck tire up as close to the rims edge as you can...back off of it..turn the atv tire just alittle at a time..do this over and over..sooner or later..the tire bead will break..trust me on this..i done my tires..they had the tires that came on the bike from the start...lol..it took me about 30 min's to do all of them..but..they did come off..oh..and if one side don't break..flip it over..work the other side...just watch your tires on your truck..don't punch the side walls out !..lol...keep us posted .

I've tried it the way you do it and I've been able to break some tires down and some not. I've tried it that way and I've tried it by sitting the base of a bumper jack on the tire and jacking the truck up on the tire. Sometimes it will work and sometimes it won't. I think it depends a lot on the tires and how worn they are. To me, it's not worth the trouble of doing it that way. Easier to just take them somewhere and have it done.

when your on a tight budget..and we are talking tight here !..you try anything that don't cost alot of money...lol..if i can save 10 bucks..i'll do it..lol.

I'm all for saving money, too, but I hate to work all day for $10 and that's usually what happens when I try to change them like you're talking about. If you can change them pretty quick, I don't blame you, though.

 

[flintforever]

thanks guy I give it another shot and report back

 

[TRX2fiveO]

Good Luck and try plain GOJO to put it back on that works real good! and cleans your hands in the process...lol

 

[flintforever]

that it I quit
I called harbor freight for a return postage shipping label
I take it to the shop not woth my time
I thought it would work what the old saying you win some you loose some
I did break one tire and did mount the new tire but the other rim seem to win the battle

 

[Helmut]

If you kept trying, you could probably eventually get them, but like you said, it's not worth the time. It would probably be cheaper in the long run just to take them somewhere and get them changed and a whole lot less aggravating.

 

[flintforever]

I just not into the hous of labor of love
I built many streetrods over the years here the last one I finished in 1999 about over 3,000 hours body off restro lot of upgrades
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/1955 ford truck/MondayJuly1020065.jpg

 

[Helmut]

Yeah, that's a nice one.

 

[flintforever]

Well I just got back from the tire shop 30.00 bucks mounted all 4 tires and bubble blance them
The best 30.00 dollars spent.
I like to ask anyone have a honda foreman dust cap cover for the steel factory rim I lost one .I called a few dealer seem they want to sell you a set of 4 ,I only need one>