[bilzhorse]

Just bought this kit and put it on per instructions. Not liking how I had to re-route the brake lines and was wondering if anyone had tried mount the calipers on the front...flipping the bracket 180* and switching the calipers left to right & right to left? I read on here someone did this on a Rancher and it worked.
Also, can't get the damn things to bleed. Any tricks?

 

[shadetree]

can't say about that kit, i put a high lifter kit on my '03 trx450fm, and i had no problems with anything, no re-routing the brake lines, no swapping them to the other side, easy bolt on, bled the lines, problem free so far, just another reason i passed on the superatv brake kit.

 

[fishfiles]

I have at least 7 SuperATV disc kits in use , maybe more as every atv I have has disc on them , no problems with any of them , when I look at the HighLifter kit compared to the SuperATV kit the only real difference I see is the HighLifter kit cost more ------you can get the brake hoses to line up with no mods , but to have a cleaner plumbing job and keep the hose out of harms way , I bend the end of the banjo fitting , I also do away with the OEM brake hose clamps and make my own

best way I found to bleed the brakes when the conventional way is giving troubles is the hose pinch method , you can find many of threads telling you how to pull that off

 

[fishfiles]

oh , if you do try and bend the banjo fitting like in the pic , be sure the vise you use has no teeth and is smooth or use rubber or such to keep the teeth from damaging the sealing face of the fitting

 

[bilzhorse]

Thanks guys. Definitely will bleed using the vise grip method & try the banjo bolt bend.

 

[Jeepwm69]

The big benefit to the HL kit is dual piston Wilwood calipers.

The problem is, just like the SuperATV kit, if you have to buy any component then you're better off buying another whole kit as the component prices are ridiculous.

And while a dual piston would hypothetically perform better, Honda factory calipers are single piston and work just fine, just like the SuperATV kits.

If you were running huge tires, the difference in the two might be noticeable.

 

[fishfiles]

If you do the pinching of the brake hose and use vise grips you may damage the hose , either use hose pinchers or wrap the hose with rubber or card board before the teeth damage the hose

 

[SamUK]

If you switch the calipers left for right they won’t bleed as the bleed nipple will be at its lowest point when swapped.

 

[Jeepwm69]

You could bleed them holding them in the proper orientation, then mount them to the knuckle couldn't you?

I just do them like the directions say to do them. Works for me.

 

[SamUK]

You could bleed them holding them in the proper orientation, then mount them to the knuckle couldn't you?

I just do them like the directions say to do them. Works for me.

I held mine above the master Cyl to bleed them, bled within 5 to 10 mins and they work great.

 

[fishfiles]

The big benefit to the HL kit is dual piston Wilwood calipers.

The problem is, just like the SuperATV kit, if you have to buy any component then you're better off buying another whole kit as the component prices are ridiculous.

And while a dual piston would hypothetically perform better, Honda factory calipers are single piston and work just fine, just like the SuperATV kits.

If you were running huge tires, the difference in the two might be noticeable.

double pistons sounds like twice the chance of a problem in the world of dirt and water -------

you are right about individual pieces , I asked SuperATV for a spring that goes between the pads and the only why they could sell it was a pair of calipers , I made my own spring

 

[SKEETDEN]

Curious as to what pads would would be used as replacement pads for this kit?

 

[Jeepwm69]

I believe Arctic Cat pads will fit. Don't recall which particular model AC

 

[SamUK]

I heard Polaris will fit also but can’t remember which model, I’ll have to search and get back to you. Fishfiles has a few of these conversions, he may know more options for pads.

 

[fishfiles]

Polaris 1000 will work , a rat tail file and just 3 or 4 passes in the holes and they slide on , I have the part number of the pads from after market some where , think it is on the 2wd brake conversion thread or a thread called 95 300 mods , 300 2wd or 4wd takes the same pads

 

[rodp]

Over here we can buy the lining material, just bandsaw it to shape and epoxy it to the metal backing plate. Same with shoes, clean them up to bare metal, shot blast them, cut friction material to size. Get the friction material hot (hot air gun) and it bends around the shoe, when cool it stays in shape. I usually epoxy them on and hold them in place with big hose clips.
Note that I wouldn't do this on a road going vehicle, but trails and mud is different.

 

[SKEETDEN]

OK Cool deal thanks guys!!

 

[fishfiles]

I put another post up here this morning and gave Rod a like , the like is still there and now I don't see the post any more , was asking Rod which type of epoxy do you use , I am still thinking of glueing brass pucks to some brake plates I saved ----I seen a guy on the net selling the brass 300 pads , but he was like $100 a set

 

[SamUK]

I put another post up here this morning and gave Rod a like , the like is still there and now I don't see the post any more , was asking Rod which type of epoxy do you use , I am still thinking of glueing brass pucks to some brake plates I saved ----I seen a guy on the net selling the brass 300 pads , but he was like $100 a set

Have you got an old clutch friction plate from a truck or car? Some are cerrametalic, you can see the brass bits in the friction material, might work, might not, could be worth a shot.

 

[fishfiles]

No , frictions plates in the pile , there is a place I deal with that relines clutches and brakes for mechanical cranes , I bet they would have some good material to use ----- do you know when I say brass puck , I mean a solid piece of brass cut from a round rod then glues to the pad