[master instigator]

Hey guys, first time poster here. I have a Rancher 420 ES and I want to get another machine with more power. I also want a lot of options so my wife could use this when were together, but when she's away I will play. I want it to be fully automatic, looking for EFI, power steering, and IRS. Any suggestions?

 

[Helmut]

Personally, I don't like the Honda auto transmissions. Too many problems with them. Just being honest.

 

[master instigator]

Which tranny are you refering to? I think there are 3 differen't one's now?

 

[Helmut]

Any Honda auto transmission. I think they all have problems. I prefer the foot shift.

I'm not saying every Honda auto transmission had problems, just some of them and I just prefer the dependability of the foot shift. I know this is a Honda forum and it's hard to beat a Honda, but I don't know why Honda don't use a belt system in their autos like Yamaha's ultramatics.

 

[shadetree]

helmut is right..the honda auto's have wayyyyy to much electronic shift problems..i'm all for the foot shift..they hold up way much better than the auto shift..not to mention..the electric shift cost a fortune to repair.

 

[master instigator]

So what you're saying is if I am set on getting an automatic quad then get a Yamaha?

 

[Helmut]

So what you're saying is if I am set on getting an automatic quad then get a Yamaha?

I hate to do this, because it's a Honda forum, but I have to be honest. Let me put it this way. I've always liked Hondas better than any other brand, but I own a Honda Foreman 400 foot shift and a Yamaha Grizzly 660 auto with ultramatic transmission. This isn't the first Grizzly I've owned and I've never had a problem out of the ultramatic belt system. If Honda would have had a belt driven transmission like the ultramatic, I probably would have went with Honda, but I just see way too many people having problems with the Honda autos and they're expensive to fix when they mess up. Also, I wish Honda had the pushbutton diff lock that comes stock on the Yamaha.

 

[Redracer]

As much as I hat to say it you would be happier with the Grizzly. It sounds like it would fit your needs better.

 

[tomgodd]

Agree with the Yamaha! Sorry Honda!

 

[Helmut]

If Honda had a belt driven auto as good as the Yamaha Ultramatic system and if they would improve the ride quality and add the selectable front diff lock, like Yamaha has, it would be a big improvement in the auto utility line and there would be a lot less people changing to the Yamaha in the utility line.

I hate to even say this on a Honda forum, but I can't lie to you about it. Have you ever ridden a Grizzly 700? If you haven't, I suggest you find someone with one and ride it and then make your decision. The 700 Grizzly is fuel injected and has independent rear suspension and power steering. Now, I better shut up.

 

[tomgodd]

The Grizzly 700 is a [email protected]$$ quad!!!!!!! I want one myself!

 

[69quadracer]

I have an 07 700 Grizzly and love it i will hook to any Honda and drag them where they don't want to go but don't get me wrong i love my Honda also but for 4x4 and power the Grizzly is the way to go unless you go Brute force but they have electricial problems after a while due to the electronics being under the seat where a lot of water and mud do sit cause people don't clean out under the seat and dry out the electrical components, get the Grizzly!

 

[master instigator]

I appreciate the honesty. It looks like the nail is in the coffin.

 

[Redracer]

I have a 2008 Yamaha Rhino in my collection. Bullet proof motor(same motor as grizzly) and an all around great machine.

Just because we love Honda doesn't mean we would steer some one into a machine that won't fit their needs. Honda just needs to step up their big bore utility line.

 

[Helmut]

I have the 660 Grizzly. The 660 isn't fuel injected and don't have the power steering. I like the 660 real good, but not as good as the 700. The 700 is fuel injected and has power steering. Both, the 660 and 700, have IRS and diff lock and both are liquid cooled. Both quads have extremely good ground clearance, especially the 700. The only thing I don't like about the 700 is that it don't have the backup recoil starter like the 660 does. Here is my 660.



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