[Black0ut]

How do I have the WORST luck with these? Can someone please explain what I am doing wrong? Every one of these are allowing the starter to continuously turn over as soon as I hook up the battery. There is no way all of these I have tried are all sticking so please explain how this is happening? It is driving me nuts!!!

Freshly charged new battery. 2 of these are brand new OEM Honda solenoids.

 

[ktriebol]

Can you attach a drawing that shows all of the wires that you have connected to the starter relay? Indicate on the drawing where each wire goes to.

 

[_Wilson_]

I've never had this happen, but........ Sounds like the starter button is sticking , pardon my ignorance , what model honda is this going on with ?

 

[Black0ut]

Sorry, I meant to mention it is a 96 trx300fw. No key, it just turns over. Bike has set up for awhile and just finishing a frame swap. Ktriebol, I figured I have something screwed up with wiring for all these to act the same way, but everything is plug and play. I will get a drawing or more pics shortly. Something dumb on my part I'm sure.

 

[ktriebol]

The drawing will be helpful. In the meanwhile, here is something to try that will positively reveal whether or not the relay is sticking internally. There are two small wires coming out of the relay, right? Those two wires go to a connector where they are connected with chassis wiring. Open that connector. Now install the big wire that goes from the relay to the starter, and finally install the big wire that goes from the relay to the battery. If the starter turns over as soon as you make the connection on the battery, then the relay is sticking internally. If it doesn't turn over, then that leads me to believe that your problem lies with the relay coil supply wire (one of the two small wires mentioned earlier, but not the green one). It is probably live even though it shouldn't be until you press the start button.

 

[Black0ut]

Here are some more pics if you guys see something obvious I have wrong.

Polarity on the solenoid/relay does NOT matter, right? I have tried it both ways and didn't change anything anyhow.

 

[fishfiles]

when you done the frame swop , what year wiring harness and head light assembly switch did you use

 

[ktriebol]

Here are some more pics if you guys see something obvious I have wrong.

Polarity on the solenoid/relay does NOT matter, right? I have tried it both ways and didn't change anything anyhow.

Polarity on the two big wires that go to the starter and battery does not matter. Polarity on the two small wires does matter. The green wire should connect with the green wire, and the other wire should connect with the non-green wire.

 

[Black0ut]

when you done the frame swop , what year wiring harness and head light assembly switch did you use

Everything is off the 96, the original bike Fish.

The bike was wrecked and I swapped everything over to the donor frame.

 

[_Wilson_]

Was there any noticeable harness damage from the wreck ? Cause from the pics it looks good IMO

Edit: from what i see looks good

 

[Black0ut]

Got it figured out I think. Stupidity as I thought and not remembering how everything was hooked up when I pulled the plastics months ago and I had a wire crossed which was jumping the solenoid. Frustration got In The way of rationalization. Thanks for taking the time to the help all

 

[_Wilson_]

Good deal! N thanks for the update not stupidity at all , more of a simple mistake

 

[fishfiles]

when you done the frame swop , what year wiring harness and head light assembly switch did you use

Everything is off the 96, the original bike Fish.

The bike was wrecked and I swapped everything over to the donor frame.

so much for that theory of a different harness or head light switch assembly --------- I am not sure if it will make it do it if it goes bad , but there is a diode in the starter wiring ---------- I guess I would put a test light on the wire that triggers the solenoid at the solenoid and see if it is hot all the time , if it is not hot then it must be the solenoid is stuck , if it is hot all the time I would look to the starter button ------------ I had a cheap e-bay china solenoid on my 450 , it got wet a few weeks back and went to spinning the engine over by it's self , I changed it to an OEM and it has been ok since ---- do you maybe have the two big wires on the solenoid reversed