[JohnnySolo]

Well once I get my quad up and running my next step to take is fixing the brakes. I'm in luck bc a guy made a very detailed video on how to fix rear brakes on my exact four wheeler. What all he replaced was the brake shoe and he replaced any O rings, C clips and felt in the assembly. My question is, will the brakes still work fine if I just clean it all up and replace the brake shoe and not replace all C clips, O rings and the felt plugs. The break shoe is $35 so that's not too bad but if you tack on all the other stuff it begins to be a problem.

 

[Jeepwm69]

Sounds like you're talking about the brake shoes.

And to answer your question...it depends.

Most of the time the rear brakes quit working because water and mud gets inside and gums everything up.

If your pads are worn down then yes, replace them. If not, clean everything up, grease the pivot points, and put new seals on the brake cam and dust cover to keep water out.

If the cam (where the cables attach) has to go forward a long way to get the pads to engage the drum, pull it off the splines and rotate it back a couple of teeth.

 

[JohnnySolo]

My rear breaks went out im 99.9% sure do to mud and water. What do the break shoes do? And seems like I may need to buy new seals, the old ones probably pretty worn down

 

[TBRider]

Your drum spins around and the shoes press out to create friction to slow a vehicle down, they used to be on everything before disc brakes

 

[alloutdoors]

My rear breaks went out im 99.9% sure do to mud and water. What do the break shoes do? And seems like I may need to buy new seals, the old ones probably pretty worn down

I think taking a peek in brake drum would be of value, because even if mud/sand you want to clean it out, because other issues can arise, i.e., actuator can seize/frozen in place that pushes the shoes apart and trust me that can be a real pain to fix....

 

[JohnnySolo]

Your drum spins around and the shoes press out to create friction to slow a vehicle down, they used to be on everything before disc brakes

That's what I thought but when Jeep said if the pads are worn then I need to replace them. Are the shoes also known as Pads? He threw me off when he said that word hahaha

 

[alloutdoors]

Your drum spins around and the shoes press out to create friction to slow a vehicle down, they used to be on everything before disc brakes

That's what I thought but when Jeep said if the pads are worn then I need to replace them. Are the shoes also known as Pads? He threw me off when he said that word hahaha

This will give you a good idea, see

 

[Jeepwm69]

Well the way I've always described are shoes being the whole assembly and pads being the friction material part of the shoe.

Might not be correct, but that's how my grandfather described them back when we were doing brakes on a 1950 Willys Jeepster.

 

[JohnnySolo]

My rear breaks went out im 99.9% sure do to mud and water. What do the break shoes do? And seems like I may need to buy new seals, the old ones probably pretty worn down

I think taking a peek in brake drum would be of value, because even if mud/sand you want to clean it out, because other issues can arise, i.e., actuator can seize/frozen in place that pushes the shoes apart and trust me that can be a real pain to fix....

Sorry just saw your post, I planned to take everything off all the way down to the bare axle. Clean every bit of it. Just curious what is a necessity. I plan to sell this quad once I get it in good condition so I don't wanna put hundreds of dollars to be sure some last for years to come if I won't have but for few more months and won't be mudding in it. (Hope not, but who knows lol)

 

[JohnnySolo]

Well the way I've always described are shoes being the whole assembly and pads being the friction material part of the shoe.

Might not be correct, but that's how my grandfather described them back when we were doing brakes on a 1950 Willys Jeepster.

Oh I see now. That clears it up. Thanks Jeep!

 

[JohnnySolo]

Here's the video that I'm referring to. The guy takes project to the point of removing axle.

https://youtu.be/HmtuUUc8CcU

 

[Jeepwm69]

Just take it apart, clean everything well, put it back together, and maybe move that cam arm back a couple of teeth to give the cables a little more leverage. That should do it.

 

[alloutdoors]

If you sell the unit, what are you thinking/considering for a replacement?

 

[JohnnySolo]

If you sell the unit, what are you thinking/considering for a replacement?

Foreman preferably, always loved em but Rancher is a close second. Just hope if I get a Foreman it doesn't have ES. That'd be so weird to get used to

 

[JohnnySolo]

Just take it apart, clean everything well, put it back together, and maybe move that cam arm back a couple of teeth to give the cables a little more leverage. That should do it.

Well then I will try that. That'll be best thing for me anyway lol

 

[JohnnySolo]

Hey there are some parts in that video he put lil grease on. Y'all have a preference on that? Or is there like certain type I need to get.

 

[alloutdoors]

Hey there are some parts in that video he put lil grease on. Y'all have a preference on that? Or is there like certain type I need to get.

For that application, I would use a Marine grade grease because it does have enhanced water properties and you can find it essentially anywhere. Alternatively, I would get some kind of good synthetic grease or well-known brand....

 

[alloutdoors]

Hey there are some parts in that video he put lil grease on. Y'all have a preference on that? Or is there like certain type I need to get.

Do be careful/mindful of how much grease you use in that area, because you do not want enough so it becomes airborne through spinning and landing on the brake pads defeating all the work put into the original problem...

 

[TBRider]

I don't use grease on brakes, I use either copper coat or silver anti-seize stuff, grease will liquify and go everywhere you dont want it to, use a paste instead.

 

[JohnnySolo]

Hey there are some parts in that video he put lil grease on. Y'all have a preference on that? Or is there like certain type I need to get.

Do be careful/mindful of how much grease you use in that area, because you do not want enough so it becomes airborne through spinning and landing on the brake pads defeating all the work put into the original problem...

Yeah I'm gonna be very careful with what I put it on and follow along with the guy on video. Certain parts he put very little