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Hello folks.My name is Jeff and I am new to this site.I just finish installing the motor in my 86 Honda Fourtrax 350 becuase it had dropped the timing chain and bent a valve which somebody else fixed for me.The problem I am having now is that I can't shift it into reverse for some reason.I also just change the cable for the reverse lockout so the adjustment is probably out a little.I have tried moving the adjustment from one end to the other and still nothing.Can you also give me a location of where it is suppose to be in the shift pattern.ie between neutral and first or past neutral.I picked up this quad from my brother-in-law for free to fixx up for my son to ride.Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and thank you for your time.JEDS67
 

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Welcome to the site, there are some Honda brains on here, they will help you. I've never had reverse on a quad.
 

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I have the same machine you have and I'm trying to sell mine. I have a brand new service manual that I will sell you, if interested. It's the official Honda manual, not a knock off. I paid $45 plus shipping last month. I'll sell it for $35 with free shipping.

/End of blatant advertising spam, and I'm sorry I can't help you, but I'm not really all that capable with these machines when it gets to the real nitty gritty. I just bought this bike to learn and little bit, and now I'm selling it cause I got something newer.
 

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Thank you for the offer Pain but that is the first thing I bought when I got the bike.Thanks again.JEDS67
 

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As far as I know when you switch into rewind you start out in neutral, push the button on the left lever down then pull in the lever and press down on the shifter if the won't work then start adjusting two or three turns at a time on the cable adjustment and keep trying it. I'm sure there is a proper procedureI do know on my 250X you push in the button on the lever to measure the cable end play it should be about 1/16 to 1/8 of a gap where the lever pivots open (toward the front of the bike) tif it's more than that you need to adjust the play out where the cable attaches to the gearbox. give that a try. Here is the page from my Honda Service manual.

 

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As far as I know when you switch into rewind you start out in neutral, push the button on the left lever down then pull in the lever and press down on the shifter if the won't work then start adjusting two or three turns at a time on the cable adjustment and keep trying it.

Agree^^^^^
 

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On this quad it seems like you shift up for neutral and down for first gear.Oh and I have that adjustment in my service manual.I guess I will have to play with that adjustment some more.It's just that I have tried the adjustment in several different positions.I am wondering if they put the lever back on in the wrong place or is there only one way it can go on.JEDS67
 

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No, it's down for neutral. 5 forward gears shifted up. Push the lever down to down shift back to neutral and then push and hold the button on the brake lever, pull the brake lever, then down one more time on the shifter for reverse.
 

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On the left brake lever is a red button push it down and hold it while you pull the lever back you have two lights on the dash green for neutral light make sure that is on before you start, and a red for reverse (rewind) while holding the button and lever in push down on the shifter the red light illuminates yaaaa your now in reverse (rewind) hence why I say switching to rewind. good luck


Can you please explain switch into rewind.Thanks.JEDS67
 

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Your red button may be gone on that old machine [mine is], but you might still have it. None the less, the reverse button will be in the same place, right beside the left brake lever.
 

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Thanks guys. I will give that a try but it won't be till this weekend now because I am on the road again for work.JEDS67
 

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Work tends to screw up a lot of fun stuff, and who ever invented it should be shot.
 

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Hello again folks.I had to put my ATV repairs on hold for a bit due to a few things but anyway here I am again.I am going to the border to pick up a carb rebuild kit I purchased off Ebay because I have been having trouble starting it.So once I get that solved I will get back to the shifting problem.A couple of quick questions though.What year of rear fenders fit my bike?Will only 86 and 87 fit TRX350?I am trying to find some used ones because I tried to locate a company that makes them with no such luck.Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thank you for your time.JEDS67
 

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86 Fourtrax Shifting Problem

I am back again with my bike running really good but it seems there is a bigger problem than it not wanting it to go into reverse.The shifter lever when you lift it up,it goes into neutral and the lever stays there it doesn't return to the middle so you can downshift.I am wondering if they have put a gear in wrong or revesed the order or something like that.Where do I start do I pull both side covers off or just one.Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.Thank you for your time.JEDS67
 

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Pull the left side cover first. Make sure everything is in place the way it's supposed to go. There's a spring on the shift shaft that could be out of place. Your manual should show how this is supposed to go. Take care not to pull the shifter out unless something is out of place and you have to, to get it back in place. Once you pull the shifter out any at all, the internal clutch lever on the other end of the shift shaft will fall off and you will have to pull the other side cover off and put it back on.
Before you go to the other side, make sure your shifter springs back into the center position, after pushing up or down on it. It may not want to shift gears yet, but just make sure it, at least, springs back to center position. Now you can move to the opposite side.

The problem could be on the other side. The internal clutch lever on the other side may have already come off or may be out of time. The other end of the shift shaft has splines on it and the internal clutch lever engages the splines, but it has to be in time. There is a punch mark on the internal clutch lever and an index mark on the inside of the crankcase that has to be aligned. The internal clutch lever is the part that engages and disengages your clutches when you shift gears.

My guess is that the spring is out of position behind the left side cover, but when you move the shifter to put it back in place, the internal clutch lever on the other side is probably going to fall off. So, you will probably end up having to take the right side cover off and put the internal clutch lever in time, by aligning the punch mark with the index mark on the case.

This first picture shows the shift shaft with the return spring on the foot shifter end and the spines, that engage the internal clutch lever, on the other end. The return spring on the shift shaft is what causes the shifter to return to the center position, after shifting either up or down.




This picture shows the internal clutch lever that engages the splines on the other end(behind the right side cover) of the shifter. This is the part with the punch mark that has to be lined up with the index mark on the inside of the crankcase.

 

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Thank you Helmut for your quick reply.I will start on the left side.Now that you say the internal clutch lever shoul be in time I am thinking that is part of the problem because the shop that put my engine back together was using there apprentice so you do the math.Anyway I am in no hurry so the left side is where I will start just to make sure.Oh I guess I better order some gaskets.Thanks again and I will keep you posted.JEDS67
 

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Thank you Helmut for your quick reply.I will start on the left side.Now that you say the internal clutch lever shoul be in time I am thinking that is part of the problem because the shop that put my engine back together was using there apprentice so you do the math.Anyway I am in no hurry so the left side is where I will start just to make sure.Oh I guess I better order some gaskets.Thanks again and I will keep you posted.JEDS67
Ok, you're welcome. Good luck, I hope you get it fixed.

By the way, when you pull the right side cover, be sure to watch for parts falling out of place, specifically the kick starter shaft, the reverse lock out lever shaft, and the parts that the internal clutch lever engage and move.(the picture I posted doesn't show these parts, but your manual should show them).
 
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