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The valves on my recon is ticking pretty bad and I was going adjust them using the guide here, When I have the timing hole cap off trying to align the index mark with the "T" mark, I make it to the "F" mark, and can see the "T" mark above it, but when I try to align the index mark and the "T" mark it slides by it everytime, there is no resistance at all at this point to to hold it there, I was wondering what do you do to get it to stay there?

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When you turn it over (by hand) to get to the mark I usually put the bike in gear and take the rear wheel closest to me and using your hand kind of bump the wheel until it lines up the "T" with the notch then take it out of gear. Also you cannot adjust the valves after you have started the engine it must be done completely cold.
 

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Thank you for the info guys, the valves were loose bigtime, I adjusted them to .005 and the ticking completely stopped. One more question you guys might know about, It runs great, but occasionally when coming up a hill or changing gears when rolling at low speeds when i give it the gas sometimes it goes dead. But immediately cranks back up I tried adjusting the idle screw(adjustment screw on my right if i was sitting on the 4 wheeler) on the carb to idle it up a tad because it was idled kind of low, but i think i see another adjustment screw on the carb (towards the front of the 4 wheeler) any idea on what this screw does? or you guys think the carb may need cleaning out?
 

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That is the pilot screw look in the repair section at the carb talk 101 thread. that will give you an idea of how to adjust our carbs. also you may want to check your air filter or muffler for restrictions
 

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Thank you for the info, I'm going to do some carb adjustments today and try to check and see if the muffler has any restrictions, I had already checked the air filter and cleaned it out real good. I am also going to change the oil soon, and I know this may sound like a stupid question, but I can't find anywhere for the tranny/clutch fluid. Is the engine oil also used for the tranny/clutch oil/fluid on all recons?

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I am going to assume they are supplied by the engine oil like mine (wet clutch system)... cleaning the air filter won't always get it clean, replacing it with a k&n or Uni filter is always a smart move.
 

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What elevation are you running at? Do you have any aftermarket parts? Have you altered the airflow in any way, intake or exhaust?

Call any Honda shop and check for the oil recommendations. I use the same GN4 oil in both the motor side and tranny side. But I would definitely check to be sure that model can take regular oil in both sides.
 

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Not sure what you mean by what elevation i'm running at? And it doesn't have any aftermarket parts , the airflow hasn't been altered either. I took the clean out screw out of the bottom of the muffler and held a rag over the muffler and reved it up some, i didn't see any junk come out. It runs awesome and has alot of power but when I top a hill or hit a big bump it seems like it wants to bog a little or go dead... does that sound like pilot screw adjusted wrong to you guys, or junk in the carb?

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Wherein north east Alabama??I grew up in Ga. north western corner a little town Called Trion and, We used to Alabama alot. Cloudland canyon state park Desoto Falls, Mentone. Fort Payne

Turn the pilot screw in until it seats DO NOT force tighten it just until it starts to get hard to turn.STOP!!! now back it out 2 1/2 turns, start the bike up let it idle now slowly turn it in until the engine starts to die back it back out and the idle will start to raise, once it does turn your idle screw in the lower the idle, go back to the pilot screw back it out in 1/4 turn and leave it alone. I think I covered it right if not I'm sure someone will inform me I was wrong. Did you read Saber6s' post on carb talk 101?? it covers everything you need to know about the pilot screw adjustment in there.
 

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I'm in Gadsden, I'm sure you know where that is. Not far from Fort Payne at all... Ever go to noccalula falls? I live less than 5 miles from there

I've been playing with the Pilot Screw but still can't seem to get it right I must have a little trash in the carb.
 

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yeah the engine oil is the tranny fluid too. it takes about 1.6-7 qts. dont do like i did and pour the oil in the filler strait from the bottle cause it gets all over the place...use a funnel lol. also the rear axle takes about 6 oz of gear oil.
 

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yeah the engine oil is the tranny fluid too. it takes about 1.6-7 qts. dont do like i did and pour the oil in the filler strait from the bottle cause it gets all over the place...use a funnel lol. also the rear axle takes about 6 oz of gear oil.
The Recon diff holds 2.7 ounces of gear oil. If you're putting 6 ounces in it, you're putting too much. The gear oil is just supposed to be up to the bottom of the check plug hole, which is on the left side of the diff, down near the bottom.
 

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i thought i read it take 6 oz of oil??? i havent had any problems with that much oil in it and been ridin alot in the snow.
 

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i thought i read it take 6 oz of oil??? i havent had any problems with that much oil in it and been ridin alot in the snow.
Yeah, that's way too much. My 06 250EX took 2.7 ounces as well, and my understanding is that they are identical parts. That specification comes from the shop manual, so I am positive that is correct. I have no clue about ATV's, so I don't know what short term affect overfilling the rear diff has, but I would assume long term that it would eventually foam like crazy and come out of the vent tube?
 

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i thought i read it take 6 oz of oil??? i havent had any problems with that much oil in it and been ridin alot in the snow.
Yeah, that's way too much. My 06 250EX took 2.7 ounces as well, and my understanding is that they are identical parts. That specification comes from the shop manual, so I am positive that is correct. I have no clue about ATV's, so I don't know what short term affect overfilling the rear diff has, but I would assume long term that it would eventually foam like crazy and come out of the vent tube?
If you overfill the diff, it will spit gear oil out the diff vent and it can cause your seals to start leaking. 2.7 ounces is the correct amount for the Recon and 250EX. I just looked it up in the owner's manual to make sure and it's 2.7 ounces. I would remove the check bolt on the lower, left side of the diff and let the gear oil drain out until it is level with the bottom of the check bolt hole. That will be the correct amount.
 
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