[therigwelder]

i have a 03 recon the electric start was working ocassionally but i normally had to start it by jumping the selonoid. then it quit firing at the selonoid so i was keeping the solenoid jumped and pulling the rope one time to get the electric start to engage,now its to the point it will only fire from the rope.whats wrong with the electric start?is it the handlebar switch ?the fuse on the bike is still good

 

[shadetree]

i have a 03 recon the electric start was working ocassionally but i normally had to start it by jumping the selonoid. then it quit firing at the selonoid so i was keeping the solenoid jumped and pulling the rope one time to get the electric start to engage,now its to the point it will only fire from the rope.whats wrong with the electric start?is it the handlebar switch ?the fuse on the bike is still good

your selonoid is bad..replace it..also..you can get some jumper cables..attach the hot lead to the postive terminal on the starter..touch the neg lead to anywhere you can get a good ground..if your starter is good..it will crank..truely means your selonoid is bad..butttttt..make sure your push to start button isn't bad..some times they can get corosion on the contacks on the inside of the button.

 

[therigwelder]

changed the solenoid last week still the same thing

 

[Helmut]

changed the solenoid last week still the same thing

Try checking the starter with a set of jumper cables, like Shadetree described above, to see if your starter is good.

Also, try tapping your starter with a hammer, while trying to start it and see if it will start. Sometimes when the starter is bad, you can jar them and they will start.

 

[shadetree]

changed the solenoid last week still the same thing

Try checking the starter with a set of jumper cables, like Shadetree described above, to see if your starter is good.

Also, try tapping your starter with a hammer, while trying to start it and see if it will start. Sometimes when the starter is bad, you can jar them and they will start.

yeah..i wanted him to see if indeed his starter was bad that way helmut..if the starter works..then it's in his handle bar button switch...only thing that can be wrong..unless he's got a short from his solenoid to his starter button ?..lol.

 

[Helmut]

changed the solenoid last week still the same thing

Try checking the starter with a set of jumper cables, like Shadetree described above, to see if your starter is good.

Also, try tapping your starter with a hammer, while trying to start it and see if it will start. Sometimes when the starter is bad, you can jar them and they will start.

yeah..i wanted him to see if indeed his starter was bad that way helmut..if the starter works..then it's in his handle bar button switch...only thing that can be wrong..unless he's got a short from his solenoid to his starter button ?..lol.

Yeah, it's easier to check the starter, first, than it is to check the start button or the wiring.

 

[shadetree]

Try checking the starter with a set of jumper cables, like Shadetree described above, to see if your starter is good.

Also, try tapping your starter with a hammer, while trying to start it and see if it will start. Sometimes when the starter is bad, you can jar them and they will start.

yeah..i wanted him to see if indeed his starter was bad that way helmut..if the starter works..then it's in his handle bar button switch...only thing that can be wrong..unless he's got a short from his solenoid to his starter button ?..lol.

Yeah, it's easier to check the starter, first, than it is to check the start button or the wiring.

thats no lie..take one of those switches apart !!!..lmfao..they are a pain to get back together !..been there..done that !..lol

 

[Helmut]

yeah..i wanted him to see if indeed his starter was bad that way helmut..if the starter works..then it's in his handle bar button switch...only thing that can be wrong..unless he's got a short from his solenoid to his starter button ?..lol.

Yeah, it's easier to check the starter, first, than it is to check the start button or the wiring.

thats no lie..take one of those switches apart !!!..lmfao..they are a pain to get back together !..been there..done that !..lol

Yeah, I've worked on those switches a lot. I've resoldered the wires where they broke loose and I've replace cracked and broken buttons.

 

[shadetree]

Yeah, it's easier to check the starter, first, than it is to check the start button or the wiring.

thats no lie..take one of those switches apart !!!..lmfao..they are a pain to get back together !..been there..done that !..lol

Yeah, I've worked on those switches a lot. I've resoldered the wires where they broke loose and I've replace cracked and broken buttons.

yup..been there..done that alot !..lol

 

[therigwelder]

starter jumped and is good.my starter button is in good condition

 

[Helmut]

starter jumped and is good.my starter button is in good condition

Are you saying that the engine won't turn over or are you saying that it turns over but won't start?

 

[shadetree]

he stated before..that he can hand pull start it..soo..he's got a problem from his selonoid to the handle bar start switch....if his starter turns when he goes right to it with jumper cables..then the problem lies somewhere either in the push to start button..or from his starter relay selonoid to the switch..no other reason that will keep the power from getting to the starter..unless of course..his starter isn't getting a good ground..but..if that was the case..when he jumped it with jumper cables..it wouldn't have cranked..unless his power lead from the relay wasn't on very good ?..either way..you got to have a good relay..power come into it..the power going to the starter switch..and if i were him..i would jump the starter relay with a screw driver at the connections on the relay..if it cranks..then you got a bad relay..only thing i can think of .

 

[Helmut]

the problem lies somewhere either in the push to start button..or from his starter relay selonoid to the switch

If this is the case, then it would start when he crosses over the solenoid, but the said it quit starting like that.

and if i were him..i would jump the starter relay with a screw driver at the connections on the relay

I believe, in the first post, he already said he had been starting it this way and it quit starting that way. Then, he said he had to start pulling the rope while he was crossing the solenoid. To me that sounds like he was just turning the engine over and helping the starter. Maybe the starter was weak. Then, he said it quit starting like that and will only start by pulling the rope now.

I don't understand this, though, because if the battery is good and the starter is good and he is crossing over the solenoid, it would have to crank over unless he has a bad battery cable or starter cable. When you cross over the solenoid, that is bypassing the solenoid and running the power straight from the battery to the starter. I would check the cables and I would check all the grounds on the ATV.

 

[therigwelder]

yes i was using the pull rope to engage the electric start while jumping the solenoid.half a pull on the rope and the electric start kicked in.when i jumped the starter out as suggested with cables the starter spun good.but my next problem aside from electric is the bike will not run at all.this weekend i rebuilt the carb which i have done several times since owning the bike i found water and trash in the bowl.i rebuilt it as i normally do,and confirmed i had fuel going to the carb.i pulled on the rope till i couldnt pull anymore.since yall know i dont have electric start lol, it wouldnt even attempt to run pop off anything. pulled the plug and confirmed fire.still nothing. what did i overlook in the carb?the no electric start pisses me off but a bike i cant run and get in the mississippi mud pisses me off worse. i am in need of mud any ideas would be great

 

[Helmut]

yes i was using the pull rope to engage the electric start while jumping the solenoid.half a pull on the rope and the electric start kicked in.when i jumped the starter out as suggested with cables the starter spun good.but my next problem aside from electric is the bike will not run at all.this weekend i rebuilt the carb which i have done several times since owning the bike i found water and trash in the bowl.i rebuilt it as i normally do,and confirmed i had fuel going to the carb.i pulled on the rope till i couldnt pull anymore.since yall know i dont have electric start lol, it wouldnt even attempt to run pop off anything. pulled the plug and confirmed fire.still nothing. what did i overlook in the carb?the no electric start pisses me off but a bike i cant run and get in the mississippi mud pisses me off worse. i am in need of mud any ideas would be great

Was it running before you pulled the carb off to clean it? You didn't get the pilot screw out of adjustment, did you?

 

[therigwelder]

it was running before i took off the carb.but it had water and trash in it was running like crap.shouldnt the pilot screw be bottomed out then screwed back 2 1/2 turns?

 

[Helmut]

it was running before i took off the carb.but it had water and trash in it was running like crap.shouldnt the pilot screw be bottomed out then screwed back 2 1/2 turns?

Yeah, that sounds about right. I can't think of anything else. You do have the gas turned on, right? You may have to take it back off and look at it and see if you see anything wrong inside.

 

[shadetree]

first off..now that i've got a better idea of whats going on..lol..the starter brushes or the starter itself is bad..if at one time the starter did work..then stoped..but cranked over when he jumped it straight with jumper cables..it pretty much could be a bad connection from the battery to selonid..then from the selonid to the starter..i would check all of that..and yes..you got some trash or something blocking your jets..it doesn't take very much at all to stop up the jets..the tinyist little piece of trash will mess the jets up..go back into your carb again..give it a very good cleaning..after you get it cleaned..blow it out with a air compresser..when you pull your jets out..hold them up to a good light..see if you can see through them..sounds like they are stoped up to me..from what your saying....it takes fuel..fire..air..and compression to make a motor run..if one of these is missing from the picture..it wont run.