the long springs are behind the shoes.you got any pictures for the front drum brakes on that same 450 foreman ES 03' model? Got the front drum shoes, springs, clips and everything off and cleaned. I just can't remember if the big part of the springs are outside or inside the shoes at certain places. I know the actual spring (the round wide part) goes a certain way, i've got that written down, just dont know for sure about the other. Thanks, helmut.