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Very nice post! I agree with the fact that we should all have manuals to our quads or bikes. I have mine on my phone and netbook. HOWEVER, sometimes these are a little vague in some areas. The trouble shooting will tell you what to look for by the symptoms that you have, but the descriptions from there are vague. Maybe I'm not that good at understanding it yet. DAMMIT BOY!Look's like there are alot of members that come on here lately with a problem about thier atv's not starting ??..turns key on..pushes start button..and they only hear a clicking noise comming from somewhere ??? ( i said somewhere..because they have no idea what or where it is ! )..lol. anyway..your answer !!..this is a sign of a couple reasons as to what is going on..first..your battery could be weak ?..or dead ?..depends on how long you let it sit ????. soo..first thing's first..check your battery..make sure it's fully charged ???..now..push the start button....same thing..clicking noise that's driving you crazy..and not starting ??..ok..now..locate your starter's solenoid..it's round..and most of them are near your battery..it has two large cables on it..there is a 10mm nut that attaches the cable to the terminals...make sure the post is clean..and tight ?..now..follow the cable to your battery..do the same here..clean..and tight !. back at the solenoid's other termianl post..is the other large cable..check to see if it's clean and tight ?..if so..follow it to your starter....it's attached with a 10mm nut...about middle ways of your starter. check to see if it's clean and tight ?. now..go back to your battery....find the neg post on the battery....see if it's clean and tight ?..follow this cable to your starter or a motor bolt ?..most of these cables bolt up near the starter...either with the starter bolt that attaches the starter to the motor ?...or near the starter..is a 6mm bolt going through the cable..into the motor. see if it's clean and tight ?..okkk..now..go back to the solenoid..you know...that pesky round thing that makes that clicking sound when you push the starter button !!..with key on ( check to make sure all your fuses are not blown ! )..push the start button..does the atv crank up ?..or do you hear that damn pesky noise again ?..if you hear that clicking noise...take an old screw driver..and touch the screw driver to both tops of the solenoid terminals..did the bike crank over ??..or did it do nothing ?..if it cranked over...then replace the solenoid..it's bad !..if it did not crank over when you put the screw driver on the solenoid's terminals..then take a hammer..and slightly tap the starter as your pushing the start button....if the starter turns over after this..then your brushes are worn to much..and you can either replace the brushes in it ?..or..buy another starter ?. if you have found that it's your starter that is bad...remove the starter from the atv ( make sure you unhook the battery from the atv )..just one cable..neg or pos...does not matter. if you have a service manual ( which..you really should have one ! )..it will show you how to pre-test the starter. before you start removing the bolts/screws from the starter ( pay attention to this next part..VERY IMPORTANT ! )..scribe a couple lines across the ends of the starter..where the ends meet the middle...this is so...when you go to put it back together..you can line the ends up where they are suppose to go !..pull the starter apart, test the armaiture..it shows you in the book how to test it..and ohm it out. clean the ends out of all the grim and dirt..and crap..i'm sure it's full of it !!..an air compresser works wonders..if ya don't have one..well..wing it !!..lol. grease the ends of the armature..bearings if it has them ?..most do. put your new brushes in..put it back together. do not tighten the bolts or screws down to tight !!!..try spining the starter by hand..does it spin kinda easy ?..if not..you got something wrong ?..or..your new brushes have not '' seated '' in yet. now..take a set of jumper cables..hook them up to a good battery..car/truck..or even a battery by itself..just make sure you got the cables on the right post on the battery's end !..now...at the other end..hook the neg on the body of the starter..the best place is the ends of the starter..where the two bolt holes are. now..briefly..touch the pos cable end of the jumber cables to the starter's bolt post..becareful..if the starter is rebuilt right..it will kinda jerk as it turns really fast !..if you did it right..then congrats..you just over hauled your starter..and saved a few bucks !..if you failed..well..it's time to go shoping for a new starter !..lol. hope this helps out gang !.
agreed ^^^^..anywhere from 12.5 to 14 is a good sign your battery is charging...you can test this with a multitester..both leads on the battery..while rev'ing bike..you should see the tester climb to around those readings....i posted that for starting issues..i guess i should have included why the battery could be weak...lol.Good post Shadetree ... you might want to say what kind of voltage to expect when checking the battery charge, usually 12.0 or so indicates a tired battery,you shoud be looking for what? 12.6 or more? Even then sometimes a load test is needed.
if your stator and reg/rec is bad ???..your not recharging your battery..test the stator...see if it's recharging your battery ?..if it test ok ?..then i would say your solenoid is bad .ive been having this problem ever since ive had my 4 wheeler i got it running now put everytime i wanna ride i gotta get somebody to pull me with a truck and lets just say i take it out in the woods and it dies (HAPPEND TODAY) i have to push back out its very annoying and hard to do.i got a new starter for it new battery i think i need a new solonoid and some fuses because when i try to jump it off with some jumper cables it dont start it tries but wont do it using the old solonoid trick and my solonoid clicks when i press the start button. I read this forum about a week ago i did everything you said beside using a jumper cable and puttin to the starter i dont wanna do that every time i wanna ride i dont think its good for the starter.
some stator's and the reg/rec can put out anywhere from 13.5 volts..on up to 15.0 volts..alot depends on the stator and reg/rec.Good post Shadetree ... you might want to say what kind of voltage to expect when checking the battery charge, usually 12.0 or so indicates a tired battery,you shoud be looking for what? 12.6 or more? Even then sometimes a load test is needed.
1st,Set the bong down,then check all the fuses,replace them all if they don't look good,or are too hard to see through,remove all cable ends one at a time,use a wire brush,shine each lug up until it shines just like a new bong!! Replace each one afterwards snugging the nuts up,and ONLY putting a little effort into tightening them after they make contact(putting dielectric grease on all CLEAN electrical connections will help to preserve their cleanliness,and good electrical connections as well as keeping moisture out..Next,avoid looking at the bong,turn key on,check for green neutral light,hit starter button if ya see green,if not,find neutral the old fashioned way by feel...Once ya have it in neutral,hit start button after you make certain the run switch is in the run position.If you hear a clicking noise,try the jumping the solenoid tricks mentioned above(you can also test the solenoid by using a test light grounded to the battery,and touching the solenoid to starter cable post on the solenoid itsel...If it lights up when ya hit the starter button,it is good,if not,it is toast..Still no vrooom vrooom?? Tap lightly on the starter body with a wooden hammer handle while you hold the start button in,with the key on,switch in the run position,in neutral..If it starts then it is time for a new starter,or at least a rebuild,if it makes a spinning noise,ya prolly need a new one way starter bearing,if it still just clicks then ya need a new starter period...Since you can pull start the atv,or jump it off,yer one way bearing is prolly good,and again it is prolly the starter itself...Which btw,a starter can work one time,not the next,work the next,not the next due to carbon buildup from the brushes wearing down,or accumulation of mud,grit,grime,etc. from age,and usage..Good luck,and don't look at,or stare at the bong...:icon_ rasta:ive been having this problem ever since ive had my 4 wheeler i got it running now put everytime i wanna ride i gotta get somebody to pull me with a truck and lets just say i take it out in the woods and it dies (HAPPEND TODAY) i have to push back out its very annoying and hard to do.i got a new starter for it new battery i think i need a new solonoid and some fuses because when i try to jump it off with some jumper cables it dont start it tries but wont do it using the old solonoid trick and my solonoid clicks when i press the start button. I read this forum about a week ago i did everything you said beside using a jumper cable and puttin to the starter i dont wanna do that every time i wanna ride i dont think its good for the starter.
welcome to the forums...and your welcome !.Shadetree- i just joined this forum to make sure that the reason i can only get my quad to start by using the screwdriver trick was definately a bad starter solenoid, i saw this thread at the top and decided to click on and there was my answer...anyways thank you for all the information you took time to include in your thread
Have you tried jumping the two posts on the solenoid to see if it will start that way?I a problem almost like this with my 2001 400ex. I turn my key on a push the starter button and nothing happens, no click nothing. I have checked the fuses and connections and still nothing. any suggestions. Also when i turn the key on head lights still work.