[SteveStrick]

I know there's already lots of tire threads out there, but I think I've narrowed it down to a few options, and just wondering if there's someone else out there who's put similar tires on one of the newer style ranchers with the auto tranny.

My bike is a 2017 Rancher, DCT with both the auto and the ES modes. It's also an IRS.

I ride mostly trails, with a fair bit of gravel, and want to be able to find some mud, as well as something that will do good in the snow.

I'm looking at either Zillas or Mudbugs (I think?)

If i went with Zillas I'd probably go 26x9-12's & 26x11-12's because I've heard they're light tires, and I've got so much fender space I think they'd fill it out well and not lose too much power. I think I'd be pretty safe with this combo performance-wise, but I've heard the zillas wear fast? Is that true?

If I went with the Mudbugs I'd probably go with 26's and go 12's on the back and 10's on the front. I used to have a Kodiak 450 with GBC gators in that size, which I think are almost identical to mudbugs, and the bike pulled them just fine, and the Kodiak was really only 421cc as well. Would the 26" bugs be too heavy for my Rancher? Does anyone have them on there bike?
And also, would they stick out past my fenders a lot and cover me with mud all the time? They did on my Kodiak, but I think this rancher has pretty wide fenders? there looks to be room to go wider and still be close to inside the fenders

Anyone who has a similar setup I'd love to hear your opinions here! or anyone just let me know what you think! Thanks!

 

[KristianYoung]

I would go with mudbugs

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[KristianYoung]

And ranchers have wide fenders and shouldn't cover you

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[SteveStrick]

I would really like to, Think they'll last a lot better and the 12's on the back really float. Don't think they'd be too heavy?

 

[KristianYoung]

Nah they shouldn't be too heavy

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[mac102004]

I'd go bugs just because they are more durable, there is only a few pounds difference between the two, if you wanted to save weight you could go 26x10 front and back, but the skinny/wide setup works better.

 

[Jeepwm69]

Don't do skinny on the back. I bought 26x10 all around for the wife's 420 Rancher. The fronts dug a rut, and the rears didn't have anything to bite on.

Sold the 10 wide rears and replaced them with 12's. Made the Rancher a whole different bike.

Find some Rincon factory wheels. They'll give you a perfect offset, and are aluminum so you save some weight.

My wife loves her Rancher. I would put 26 skinny/wide Mudbugs on Rincon factory wheels on yours. Perfect setup.

 

[SteveStrick]

Perfect, that's what I was hoping to hear! You've been happy with how the bugs have performed on the DCT?
I had heard bad things about going skinny all around, so I knew I wanted wides on the back. Good to hear someone who has the same setup.
I'm thinking about getting some aftermarket rims too, I'm assuming they'll be lighter than the stock wheels too?
Thanks again for the reply!

 

[Jeepwm69]

Aftermarket won't be lighter than Rincon factory wheels, and they'll stick out on the sides. That's why I got the Rincon wheels. Offset keeps them under the flares.

And yes, the setup is perfect for a DCT. I did an 18% gear reduction on the wife's machine (secondary gears from a footshift 420), but it didn't really need it. Now it will pop a wheelie.....

 

[SteveStrick]

Thanks for the info, that's all really helpful! What's the offset on the rincon wheels you found? They won't make aftermarket wheels with that same offset anywhere?

 

[mac102004]

Don't do skinny on the back. I bought 26x10 all around for the wife's 420 Rancher. The fronts dug a rut, and the rears didn't have anything to bite on.

Sold the 10 wide rears and replaced them with 12's. Made the Rancher a whole different bike.

Find some Rincon factory wheels. They'll give you a perfect offset, and are aluminum so you save some weight.

My wife loves her Rancher. I would put 26 skinny/wide Mudbugs on Rincon factory wheels on yours. Perfect setup.

You can throw 1" spacers on the rear and that helps. I never noticed that issue much on the Rene running 11's front and rear, but that's a bit of a different animal.

 

[SteveStrick]

Don't think I'd want spacers, I'd like to keep the tires under the fenders as much as possible

 

[SteveStrick]

Curious to as if anyone else out there with thoughts on tires

 

[Jeepwm69]

You can throw 1" spacers on the rear and that helps. I never noticed that issue much on the Rene running 11's front and rear, but that's a bit of a different animal.

Probably a lot to do with the type of mud too.

The wides are sold as "rear" and have side lugs that bite in the ruts. The fronts lack those lugs, because they would snatch the handlebars when the rider was trying to steer.

 

[Maddog225]

I got 25 10 12 executioners and never had a problem with all skinny tbh all skinny is where it's at on the irs bikes cause it has more gc but with my stock grs I had problems turning them

 

[JustInMaine]

I know there's already lots of tire threads out there, but I think I've narrowed it down to a few options, and just wondering if there's someone else out there who's put similar tires on one of the newer style ranchers with the auto tranny.

My bike is a 2017 Rancher, DCT with both the auto and the ES modes. It's also an IRS.

I ride mostly trails, with a fair bit of gravel, and want to be able to find some mud, as well as something that will do good in the snow.

I'm looking at either Zillas or Mudbugs (I think?)

If i went with Zillas I'd probably go 26x9-12's & 26x11-12's because I've heard they're light tires, and I've got so much fender space I think they'd fill it out well and not lose too much power. I think I'd be pretty safe with this combo performance-wise, but I've heard the zillas wear fast? Is that true?

If I went with the Mudbugs I'd probably go with 26's and go 12's on the back and 10's on the front. I used to have a Kodiak 450 with GBC gators in that size, which I think are almost identical to mudbugs, and the bike pulled them just fine, and the Kodiak was really only 421cc as well. Would the 26" bugs be too heavy for my Rancher? Does anyone have them on there bike?
And also, would they stick out past my fenders a lot and cover me with mud all the time? They did on my Kodiak, but I think this rancher has pretty wide fenders? there looks to be room to go wider and still be close to inside the fenders

Anyone who has a similar setup I'd love to hear your opinions here! or anyone just let me know what you think! Thanks!

Have you looked at the Kenda Bearclaw tires? Those are what I'm looking to put on my rancher. Have heard some good things about them from some on the site.

 

[SteveStrick]

I know there's already lots of tire threads out there, but I think I've narrowed it down to a few options, and just wondering if there's someone else out there who's put similar tires on one of the newer style ranchers with the auto tranny.

My bike is a 2017 Rancher, DCT with both the auto and the ES modes. It's also an IRS.

I ride mostly trails, with a fair bit of gravel, and want to be able to find some mud, as well as something that will do good in the snow.

I'm looking at either Zillas or Mudbugs (I think?)

If i went with Zillas I'd probably go 26x9-12's & 26x11-12's because I've heard they're light tires, and I've got so much fender space I think they'd fill it out well and not lose too much power. I think I'd be pretty safe with this combo performance-wise, but I've heard the zillas wear fast? Is that true?

If I went with the Mudbugs I'd probably go with 26's and go 12's on the back and 10's on the front. I used to have a Kodiak 450 with GBC gators in that size, which I think are almost identical to mudbugs, and the bike pulled them just fine, and the Kodiak was really only 421cc as well. Would the 26" bugs be too heavy for my Rancher? Does anyone have them on there bike?
And also, would they stick out past my fenders a lot and cover me with mud all the time? They did on my Kodiak, but I think this rancher has pretty wide fenders? there looks to be room to go wider and still be close to inside the fenders

Anyone who has a similar setup I'd love to hear your opinions here! or anyone just let me know what you think! Thanks!

Have you looked at the Kenda Bearclaw tires? Those are what I'm looking to put on my rancher. Have heard some good things about them from some on the site.

I've thought long and hard about the bearclaws too, and haven't ruled them out yet either. My tire of choice seems to change almost daily. lol

What size are you thinking of putting on? whatever I go with I'm going to go bigger than stock.

 

[JustInMaine]

I'm going to go 25" that way I can gain a little more height.

creed82 has a good video that shows his bearclaws on his rancher.

http://www.hondaatvforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=106137

 

[SteveStrick]

I looked at 25" claws on the internet and noticed that for the backs you can get a 25x12.5-11 that would fit the back rim, and they have a deeper tread, but they don't have ones with the deeper tread for the front. So I was wondering if the deeper tread ones would be taller than the fronts, or not enough to make a difference. Don't really want to put two different height tires on, but really like the ones with deeper tread.

 

[Maddog225]

Consider the 25 26 589 skinny the 27 skinny wide done good on my irs bike but bogged a little if u go with the 26 27 skinny u should be fine