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I picked up a 1998 fourtrax 4x4 electric/kick start. Really like it so far, very different experience from my 2004 recon. Came with aftermarket wheels, moose hand guards, plate skid, etc.

How much is shared between the recon and the fourtrax 300? They look similar, but i dont see much of anything that is the same. The recon is more narrow, for sure. Both mine have been upgraded to 12" wheels so can't compare stock.









 

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your comparing apples to oranges here !..lol. even though they may look alike ?..they are in now way even in the same ball park !. the frame is different. the rear end is different, the cc's ( motors ) are different. the c.d.i's are different. all in all ?, the trx300 is wayyyyyyy better over all. ifi had to choose between the two ?, I deff would take the trx300 over the trx250 recon any day !.
 
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I understand. They are very different. I was curious if there were anything that crossed over - part number wise. Like the seat looks almost identical, but mounts differently.

Driving wise the fourtrax turning radius is horrible, recon turns on a dime. The extra 130lbs on the fourtrax shows in how it rides as well. The recon is much more fun, the fourtrax is so much more capable. I really like it so far, but I'd have to keep the recon to play. The fourtrax stays too in control for me. I like being on two side wheels too much to only keep the fourtrax. Lol

Also, any idea what this is on the side of the handlebar? Power outlet for an accessory? Particular one? Has a - and + output on bottom so I was curious if anyone has seen a light or something else with this plug.



 

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I understand. They are very different. I was curious if there were anything that crossed over - part number wise. Like the seat looks almost identical, but mounts differently.

Driving wise the fourtrax turning radius is horrible, recon turns on a dime. The extra 130lbs on the fourtrax shows in how it rides as well. The recon is much more fun, the fourtrax is so much more capable. I really like it so far, but I'd have to keep the recon to play. The fourtrax stays too in control for me. I like being on two side wheels too much to only keep the fourtrax. Lol

Also, any idea what this is on the side of the handlebar? Power outlet for an accessory? Particular one? Has a - and + output on bottom so I was curious if anyone has seen a light or something else with this plug.



because the trx300 is 4wd !..lol. it's not meant to ride anything like the trx250 recon. and yes, that outlet is a 12 volt accessory outlet :).
 
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if ya reach in there where the plugs are with a pair of needle nose pliers ?, you can pull the whole plug out, and on the end of each plug, is a screw to attach a wire. these were meant for spot lights back in the day, as Honda sold this model as a ranch hand back then for the most part :).
 
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you can also wire up a 12 volt dc air compressor to it as well.
 
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because the trx300 is 4wd !..lol. it's not meant to ride anything like the trx250 recon. and yes, that outlet is a 12 volt accessory outlet :).
Thats why i would have to keep the recon :). I've never had a 4wd that turned well. (Stock)
 

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if ya reach in there where the plugs are with a pair of needle nose pliers ?, you can pull the whole plug out, and on the end of each plug, is a screw to attach a wire. these were meant for spot lights back in the day, as Honda sold this model as a ranch hand back then for the most part :).
Thanks. Any idea what amps it can handle?
 

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if ya reach in there where the plugs are with a pair of needle nose pliers ?, you can pull the whole plug out, and on the end of each plug, is a screw to attach a wire. these were meant for spot lights back in the day, as Honda sold this model as a ranch hand back then for the most part :).
Thanks. Any idea what amps it can handle?
I don't have my service manual handy, but if you down load it, get your hands on one ?, it should tell you ?. other than this, I do not know.
 
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Ok i have the FSM and it wasn't shown so I wasn't sure if it may be common knowledge. I grabbed it from the manuals section today when i picked up the new 300. It's possible i overlooked it, but i didnt see it anywhere. I'm guessing 15amps is close to its limits between what the stator and the battery can handle.
 

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The FSM specs the 300fw alternator at 0.22kW @ 5000 RPM, so 220 watts gross. Doing the math, (choosing a nominal 14 volts as the regulated output voltage) you get: 220 / 14 = 15.7142857143 Amps. In the real world though, there are losses through the regulator/rectifier and the wiring etc., due to resistance and conversion to heat, so if you figure in a loss percentage of 20% you might expect to have available: 15.7142857143 x 0.8 = 12.5714285714 Net Amps available at 5000 RPM to power the machine and any accessories you might plug into it.

 

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The FSM specs the 300fw alternator at 0.22kW @ 5000 RPM, so 220 watts gross. Doing the math, (choosing a nominal 14 volts as the regulated output voltage) you get: 220 / 14 = 15.7142857143 Amps. In the real world though, there are losses through the regulator/rectifier and the wiring etc., due to resistance and conversion to heat, so if you figure in a loss percentage of 20% you might expect to have available: 15.7142857143 x 0.8 = 12.5714285714 Net Amps available at 5000 RPM to power the machine and any accessories you might plug into it.

by memory, I wasssssss gonna say around 12 to 15 amps ?, why ?, because if my memory is still good ? ( sometimes its not ! ) the ignition switch fuse is around 15 amps correct ? ( I've slept sense then )..lol.
 

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....if you want to improve the steering on your 300 4x4 , get a Wide Open 4x2 selector kit , they are pricey at $369 , but well worth it -----------Warn made the kit originally and Wide Open took it over , the two are exactly the same , so if you can find an old Warn then a new Wide Open rebuild kit for $125 will rebuild it
 

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....if you want to improve the steering on your 300 4x4 , get a Wide Open 4x2 selector kit , they are pricey at $369 , but well worth it -----------Warn made the kit originally and Wide Open took it over , the two are exactly the same , so if you can find an old Warn then a new Wide Open rebuild kit for $125 will rebuild it
The 4x2 selector is a great addition, as well as the front disc brake conversion. Worth the money. You should replace the rubber brake lines at the same time, with braided ones. These three things will make it a different machine.
 

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Thanks all.

I think the handlebar grips may be the same between the two, headlight bulbs may also interchange but can't confirm.


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Yes they are. Good call. That's the stuff i care about. If one atv goes out the other is going with it through the trails so if anything fails the atv in front leading needs to have the lights till we get back. I'm not looking to do heart surgery on the trails, but that little stuff helps. The 14 yr old will be on one of them. Start relays I'm guessing are the same. He can't pull start the recon so that is a helpful crossover. Is the bolt pattern on the wheels the same? Both 4 lug, but I haven't measured it. Brake cable and reverse looks the same. Anything little that breaks i can swap to make his rideable back is good.
 

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I need a lounge chair for the lady. I'm wanting to stick to $200 or less, or find a used one cheaper. Any recommendations?
 
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