[Jeepwm69]

I think Shadetree will like this one so much he'll end up keeping it......

 

[shadetree]

Ok, here is a few pics of what happens WHEN YOU JUST FLUSH INSTEAD OF SPLIT THE CASES WHEN SUNK !. my gawd ppl, stop freaking cutting corners !!!. found a few rusted main parts ( did not take pics was so mad ), oil pump: dead. idle gear:dead. main case halves: dead. cam: dead. cam bearings: dead. crank is good though !..lmfao. anyway, enjoy these pics, AND THINK ABOUT IT THE NEXT TIME YOU THINK A FLUSH WILL FIX YOUR MOTOR ?!!. my money says oil pump locked up, then idle gear bearings went, then cam bearings from grit in the motor.

 

[Manny]

 

[mac102004]

Honestly, that doesn't even look like they flushed it either....lol

 

[Goober]

Oh man is that bearing race rounded out? Can you rebuild that engine? Anyway I like that quad could you hit it with some Mossy Oak wrap?

 

[Jeepwm69]

Wow.

I mean wow.

I bought my 06 that had been ridden for 2500 miles with, from looking at it, no oil change. Crank, top end, and balancer were trashed. knuckles were ruined from riding with wheels at / \ angles for so long.....but just wow.

Can you imagine what it took to get to that point?

But, if the crank is good; a new crank would cost more than all the other stuff combined.

 

[shadetree]

Oh man is that bearing race rounded out? Can you rebuild that engine? Anyway I like that quad could you hit it with some Mossy Oak wrap?

bearings on cam and idle gear shattered !..lol. oil pump twisted the tang off, idle gear tang where the oil pump mates ?, twisted off !. cam is destroyed as well as idle gear and all bearings. crank seems to be good to run ?, will check again when I get time. case halves where the bearings sit are rounded out big time, one side of the case half has a crack busted through it, oil drain threads are half gone on the inside, one big cluster freak was in the engine !!!..lol. can I rebuild it ?...sure...once I get a idle gear, new cam, new oil pump, and both main case halves ?, I can rebuild her, better, stronger..faster !..lmao ( ok..was kidding about the faster part ..lol ). I can rebuild just about all Honda engines...if I have parts ?..lol. this motor will be a complete rebuild from scratch I guess ?. gonna do my best to make her right.

 

[shadetree]

Wow.

I mean wow.

I bought my 06 that had been ridden for 2500 miles with, from looking at it, no oil change. Crank, top end, and balancer were trashed. knuckles were ruined from riding with wheels at / \ angles for so long.....but just wow.

Can you imagine what it took to get to that point?

But, if the crank is good; a new crank would cost more than all the other stuff combined.

ehhhh..if your buying new case halves ?..WRONG !!..LOL. one part is over 300 bucks, other side is over 200 bucks, soooo..add that, and all the other parts I need ?, pretty sure a new crank might be cheaper ?. ( have not looked at crank prices ).

 

[dr. feelgood]

Wow that sucks. Not often that I see top to bottom destruction in the junkers I buy. Usually it's the top end that is toast but sometimes the trans. Is that one an OHV I'm assuming?

Rob

 

[cmanningjr]

Ehhh, that sucks... Nothing can't fix though...

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[mac102004]

Hey shade are you going to send it to nFlow? Lol crank is only like $400, def cheaper than case halves. I think I'd be looking for used ones, maybe even a donor motor.


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[Jeepwm69]

Crank is $400+ from Honda East. Retail is $600+

Hot rods finally made a rod kit for them, so at least you can have them rebuilt now.

Used cases are pretty cheap. New? Yeah that's gonna be $$$.

Sent you a guy's number that I biught a crank from a couple of weeks ago. Maybe he has the rest of the motor

 

[shadetree]

Crank is $400+ from Honda East. Retail is $600+

Hot rods finally made a rod kit for them, so at least you can have them rebuilt now.

Used cases are pretty cheap. New? Yeah that's gonna be $$$.

Sent you a guy's number that I biught a crank from a couple of weeks ago. Maybe he has the rest of the motor

thanks jeep, I texted him, waiting on a answer back .

 

[shadetree]

Hey shade are you going to send it to nFlow? Lol crank is only like $400, def cheaper than case halves. I think I'd be looking for used ones, maybe even a donor motor.


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don't need a crank....yet !..lol. this crank seems to be ok...so far ?!..lol.

 

[shadetree]

Wow that sucks. Not often that I see top to bottom destruction in the junkers I buy. Usually it's the top end that is toast but sometimes the trans. Is that one an OHV I'm assuming?

Rob

nope bro, these are bottom cams. front cam loaded, and cam chain. same cam chain slack adjuster the trx350's use in their models. all my damage on this in the lower part of the engine. and the main case halves are ruined beyond use.

 

[shadetree]

Ehhh, that sucks... Nothing can't fix though...

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lol, your just a blue glove pic perv ?..soo..yeah..figured you would eye ball this thread ?!..lmfao. anyway..yes..your right, nothing cash and me can't fix !..lmao.

 

[shadetree]

worked late last night, was picking back through this motor, and my findings are in fact, case halves ruined, cam ruined, some bearings ruined, idle crank gear ruined, and oil pump ruined. poured about half a cup worth of metal, ball bearings, and bearing races out of the motor halves, lol. crank is ok, piston looked good, as well as rings. from looking at the cam ?, it looks like the decompression lever part on it busted apart ?, then it was all down hill from there..lol. welllllllllll..it's been a day or two sense I've rebuild a complete motor ?..sooooo..now is a good time as any to rebuild this old beat up girl, and give her another life huh ?..lol. stay tuned outlaws, i'll keep everyone updated on my progress .

 

[shadetree]

update: well, thanks to jeep, I scored all my used parts, got both main cases, oil pump, idle crank gear, cam, crank, flywheel, all for 200 bucks. I think I did good ?...lol.

 

[Manny]

Now that's a steal. You owe jeep big time!

I would be very hesitant to run that crank. just looking at the silt in the bottom of the engine, you wont get all of that out of the rod bearing without disassembly.

ive had great luck with hot rods bottom end kits on the last 3 motors. grizzly 450, grizzly 660, and rzr 800.

Havent had to replace a Honda crank yet.

Also, not sure how these shafts are inside the trans, but as you already know, be very careful with those bearings inside, the last grizzly 450 I did, they were smoked from particulates. had to replace the entire trans assembly, every bearing was bad. including case bearings.

 

[alloutdoors]

I am confident you will get her purring like a kitten soon...