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yeah its just insane what some new trucks cost these days, and there constantly going higher in price tags

seems far too many folks will finance there life away and the OEM's know this, and
these folks keep driving the prices up due to there willingness to spend so much on them!
 

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I drive a 16 year old Dodge Ram. Been paid off for years, gets me where I need to go and still looks decent

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My 12 yr old F150 started to show signs of rust, cant stand rust. Down sized to a gmc canyon with 6cyl 8sp trans and tow package. Very happy so far, should double the mileage this week with a NC smokey mountain ride. In to it for 24.500, not great but much cheaper than the fancy ones
 

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my 17 year old chevy Silverado, with over 200k miles has been the best thing I've ever paid for !, rock on chevy !!!!.
 

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yeah its just insane what some new trucks cost these days, and there constantly going higher in price tags

seems far too many folks will finance there life away and the OEM's know this, and
these folks keep driving the prices up due to there willingness to spend so much on them!
^^so true mrbb^^

I don't understand why people buy new in the first place. As soon as that 'new' vehicle is driven off the forecourt it loses 20k in value.
Unless you were to buy with the intention of keeping it for 20/30 years it's just not worth it IMO.

I've never owned a new car, I never will either for the reasons mentioned.
 

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I leased a Tacoma. For the amount of driving that I do with it (hauling the quad to the desert and back plus some odds and ends), it made sense sort of. Most people don't know Toyota will lease one. Plus my first purchased Tacoma was used in 2001 and it was a certified used lease return. It was rock solid with no issues. It was definitely used by the previous owner/lessee by the looks of the scratches under the bed liner and covered/touched up bed rail scratches. So both options are something to consider.


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yeah its just insane what some new trucks cost these days, and there constantly going higher in price tags

seems far too many folks will finance there life away and the OEM's know this, and
these folks keep driving the prices up due to there willingness to spend so much on them!
^^so true mrbb^^

I don't understand why people buy new in the first place. As soon as that 'new' vehicle is driven off the forecourt it loses 20k in value.
Unless you were to buy with the intention of keeping it for 20/30 years it's just not worth it IMO.

I've never owned a new car, I never will either for the reasons mentioned.
well I tend to Only buy new trucks, I HATE the prices, but I tended to travel a lot over most of my driving yrs,(40-50,000 miles a yr)
so, buying new, gave me a warranty and some peace of mind I guess, and lowered the odds of me breaking down far from home
I worked 3 jobs so was able to swing things
I tend to seldom have any luck buying anything used, most times, it ends up costing me more than if I just went and bought new ?

But here in my area, trying to keep a vehicle rust free past 8 yrs is about impossible
the amount of salt and salt chemical solution they use 3-4 months a yr, just eats metal here
wash wax, do all you like, unless you can park it 6 months out of the yr in a dry warm garage, long life ain't happening
my last truck made it to 10 yrs and I took very good care of it, and it rusted out from under the paint out, good on BOTH exterior sides of things, just came apart

so, even trying to find a used truck here in GOOD shape isn;t always easy, too many idiots that do NOT know what a PM is and the roads here, beat vehicles up pretty good, on wash board roads, my tires leave the ground several times a day on the roads here with speeds of 65+ on them!
have YET to have a truck get past 38,000 miles without needing ball joints and front end alignments!

YES new trucks are nutty expensive, but not much of a better option out there for folks that need reliable things and DON"T have time or skills or a place to work on themselves, plus these newer trucks, few things are LEFT the average tool turner can even work on?

a lot comes down to where you live and HOW you live
I live off the beaten path, its a road trip to go about any place?
 

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I must be getting ancient, but I can remember when you could buy a Peterbilt, a Mack, or any other big fancy truck all dressed up for less than $80k out the door!
^^^Now there trucks!!^^^
 

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yeah its just insane what some new trucks cost these days, and there constantly going higher in price tags

seems far too many folks will finance there life away and the OEM's know this, and
these folks keep driving the prices up due to there willingness to spend so much on them!
^^so true mrbb^^

I don't understand why people buy new in the first place. As soon as that 'new' vehicle is driven off the forecourt it loses 20k in value.
Unless you were to buy with the intention of keeping it for 20/30 years it's just not worth it IMO.

I've never owned a new car, I never will either for the reasons mentioned.
well I tend to Only buy new trucks, I HATE the prices, but I tended to travel a lot over most of my driving yrs,(40-50,000 miles a yr)
so, buying new, gave me a warranty and some peace of mind I guess, and lowered the odds of me breaking down far from home
I worked 3 jobs so was able to swing things
I tend to seldom have any luck buying anything used, most times, it ends up costing me more than if I just went and bought new ?

But here in my area, trying to keep a vehicle rust free past 8 yrs is about impossible
the amount of salt and salt chemical solution they use 3-4 months a yr, just eats metal here
wash wax, do all you like, unless you can park it 6 months out of the yr in a dry warm garage, long life ain't happening
my last truck made it to 10 yrs and I took very good care of it, and it rusted out from under the paint out, good on BOTH exterior sides of things, just came apart

so, even trying to find a used truck here in GOOD shape isn;t always easy, too many idiots that do NOT know what a PM is and the roads here, beat vehicles up pretty good, on wash board roads, my tires leave the ground several times a day on the roads here with speeds of 65+ on them!
have YET to have a truck get past 38,000 miles without needing ball joints and front end alignments!

YES new trucks are nutty expensive, but not much of a better option out there for folks that need reliable things and DON"T have time or skills or a place to work on themselves, plus these newer trucks, few things are LEFT the average tool turner can even work on?

a lot comes down to where you live and HOW you live
I live off the beaten path, its a road trip to go about any place?

You leave me no choice but to back track on my first post now, damn you mrbb :laugh:

Yes, there will always be exceptions for owning a new vehicle, folks in a position such as yourself where terrain and conditions are so demanding and wearing on vehicles. I suppose another worthy candidate of owning new vehicles would be businesses, simply for the mileage they’d cover and for the warrantee.

For the average working guy... I can’t see any reason to buy a new, out of the showroom vehicle. Maybe if you’d retired and had always aspired to owning a new vehicle yes, why not, but even then is it actually worth the money...?
 

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if you were a million then it would be a drop in a bucket and make a nice ranch/hunting truck ----in 2009 I wanted a Dodge 4500 and with a basic 8 ft utility bed installed and standard fleet white paint and bare bones gray interior was $70,000 with tax , financing , license , dealer prep , etc , etc , I said no thanks and I bought a 1 year old 2008 4500 6.7 Cummins flat bed for $22K and put my 11 ft box on it and got 230,000 miles on it now , been a great truck -------
 

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if you were a million then it would be a drop in a bucket and make a nice ranch/hunting truck ----in 2009 I wanted a Dodge 4500 and with a basic 8 ft utility bed installed and standard fleet white paint and bare bones gray interior was $70,000 with tax , financing , license , dealer prep , etc , etc , I said no thanks and I bought a 1 year old 2008 4500 6.7 Cummins flat bed for $22K and put my 11 ft box on it and got 230,000 miles on it now , been a great truck -------
Cummins make a superb engine. When I worked in the light commercial garage we had a recovery truck with a 6BT Cummins that had covered over 650,000 miles and still ran like a top.
You’ve got a lot of life left in yours yet lol.
 

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if you were a million then it would be a drop in a bucket and make a nice ranch/hunting truck ----in 2009 I wanted a Dodge 4500 and with a basic 8 ft utility bed installed and standard fleet white paint and bare bones gray interior was $70,000 with tax , financing , license , dealer prep , etc , etc , I said no thanks and I bought a 1 year old 2008 4500 6.7 Cummins flat bed for $22K and put my 11 ft box on it and got 230,000 miles on it now , been a great truck -------
Cummins make a superb engine. When I worked in the light commercial garage we had a recovery truck with a 6BT Cummins that had covered over 650,000 miles and still ran like a top.
You’ve got a lot of life left in yours yet lol.
great engines for sure, but rest of truck??ain't up to same level IMO! and I own a 6.7 cummings in a 2500 dodge/ram LOL
 

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That is why I purchased a MINT old truck. Paid cash, got what I wanted and NO payments. The stealer ships sucker people in all the time. (The ones who don't really "NEED" a new truck!)
 
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