[Agro]

I just got this a couple weeks ago. I ride my dirt bike mostly, so this is to toss in my Toy Hauler and take to the desert and anyone who comes along can ride it. Yeah, I'll probably put around on it sometimes when I go grab someone at night (my CRF450R no headlight) and just when I am screwing around. No racing, no mud. Dirt and light sand (not paddles aka Glamis stuff). Mostly Ocotillo Wells in SoCal area or Lucerne.. desert stuff.

I was looking at the tires that are on there and wondering if it may be worthwhile putting some new rubber on there before the season starts. I just finished air filter, spark plug, oil, and new jets (42 pilot, 155 main) came in today, gonna clean the carb fully and give it a try.

The manual shows stock sizes as:
front = 22-7-10
rear = 20-10-9

Do these pics look like maybe some new rubber is needed? I dont even know what came stock on these things? If these are stock then they are 12 years old and I'd think new rubber just for breakdown is good?

How about recommendations?
CST Ambush 20-11-9 (REAR)
CST Ambush 22-7-10 (FRONT)?

Razr and Razr2 seem to have a lot of positive feedback on this forum, but like I said this isn't serious quad riding, racing, etc. I just want something solid. What about sizes?
What about these great deal ($) on eBay complete tire sets? People bought them, it shows a lot sold... cheap cheap. Are they crap or anyone ran them and can say nawww. they are okay?

251 sets sold - HONDA TRX 400EX MASSFX SPORT ATV TIRES ( ALL 4 TIRES ) 21X7-10 , 20X10-9 | eBay
22 sets sold - HONDA TRX 400EX QUADKING SPORT ATV TIRES 22X7-10, 20X10-9 ( 4 TIRE SET ) | eBay

Slightly diff sizes... hmmm

Thanks for your help!

 

[SlammedRanger]

Those are stock tires. But they are in really good condition. I would look into gbc xc masters. Would be the same as a maxxis razr 2 but way way cheaper. You can even buy them on walmart.com lol. Would be a good all around tire for sand or anything you ride in. My .02

 

[SlammedRanger]

One concern i do have though is those are not stock lug nuts. So someone either lost them or lost a wheel at one point and replaced with regular nuts. The problem with that is they are missing the bevel that centers your wheel. I would suggest getting some with the bevel so you dont lose a wheel while riding.

 

[Agro]

One concern i do have though is those are not stock lug nuts. So someone either lost them or lost a wheel at one point and replaced with regular nuts. The problem with that is they are missing the bevel that centers your wheel. I would suggest getting some with the bevel so you dont lose a wheel while riding.

Good observation. I will check that out for sure when taking them off and replace if they dont have that. Yes, I know the bevel on lug nuts and how it does force it in to center as you lightly snug each one, then torque them down. Good eye. Thank you for your replies.

 

[Agro]

I guess though if they are in decent condition visually as you say, I could just put a season on it and see... I didn't measure the depth.

 

[SlammedRanger]

Yeah those tires are about 90% tread. Either the quad was never rode. Or they put new oem tires on it. Which i would never understand why anyone would do that. The stock tires kinda suck honestly. Puncture resistans is terrible and they dont grip well in any condition really. Maybe a good road tire but thats about it.

 

[Agro]

Okay good to know. The guy had a few acres and rode it around his ranch just to get from shed X to shed Y kinda thing. He said he didn't even use it much for that. So I'd think it just barely got used. Plastics r shiny n new. Frame no rust. Clean for 12 years now.

Thanks

 

[SlammedRanger]

No problem! Glad to help!

 

[M_Quick]

Those are stock tires. But they are in really good condition. I would look into gbc xc masters. Would be the same as a maxxis razr 2 but way way cheaper. You can even buy them on walmart.com lol. Would be a good all around tire for sand or anything you ride in. My .02

Don't forget one of the site sponsors "Discount Tire" will beat the lowest advertised price tires you find! And the GBC XC-Master tires are awesome imo.

 

[Agro]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

 

[SamUK]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

If you don't mind tipping your ATV onto its side fitting tyres isn't to bad, don't take the wheel off, just leave it bolted to the hub. Failing that make something up to bolt your wheel to, if you've got the wheel secured swapping them over is a piece of cake.
Popping them onto the bead is the worst part I find lol.

 

[M_Quick]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

$202 is a good deal, what brand did you go with? And for around $39.95 you can purchase the Harbor Freight tire changer. It's a decent tool and well worth the money if you plan on changing say more than 2 sets of tires. Most small tire shops will change them for like $5 a piece. And breaking the bead is by far harder than setting a bead. You can mount the tires by hand far easier than un-mounting.

 

[SamUK]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

$202 is a good deal, what brand did you go with? And for around $39.95 you can purchase the Harbor Freight tire changer. It's a decent tool and well worth the money if you plan on changing say more than 2 sets of tires. Most small tire shops will change them for like $5 a piece. And breaking the bead is by far harder than setting a bead. You can mount the tires by hand far easier than un-mounting.

I have a tool for breaking beads, it's called a tractor! Haha.. 99% of the time a good bar and a big hammer busts beads, it's those old stock tyres on beaters that are a pain in the butt to get off.

 

[M_Quick]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

$202 is a good deal, what brand did you go with? And for around $39.95 you can purchase the Harbor Freight tire changer. It's a decent tool and well worth the money if you plan on changing say more than 2 sets of tires. Most small tire shops will change them for like $5 a piece. And breaking the bead is by far harder than setting a bead. You can mount the tires by hand far easier than un-mounting.

I have a tool for breaking beads, it's called a tractor! Haha.. 99% of the time a good bar and a big hammer busts beads, it's those old stock tyres on beaters that are a pain in the butt to get off.

LOL I'll bet you spent more on your tractor than I did my tire changer! I agree though harder to get them off than to put on. to set the bead all you need is some some & water mixture and a air compressor.

 

[SamUK]

Yeah haha.. Tractors don't come cheap!

My last set of tyres were packaged terribly, banded together and misshapen. They were a nightmare to fit, I ended up taking them to the local tyre bay and had to help the guy fit them, even a bead blaster (tank of air with a huge nozzle) wouldn't seat them!
I had to bring them home, wedge some wooden blocks inside and leave them for a few weeks to take shape then go back to the tyre bay, still took over an hour to fit them!

 

[Agro]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

$202 is a good deal, what brand did you go with? And for around $39.95 you can purchase the Harbor Freight tire changer. It's a decent tool and well worth the money if you plan on changing say more than 2 sets of tires. Most small tire shops will change them for like $5 a piece. And breaking the bead is by far harder than setting a bead. You can mount the tires by hand far easier than un-mounting.

2 of GBC XC-Master ATV Bias Tire - 20/11-9 @ $39.30 (free ship)
2 of GBC XC-Master ATV Bias Tire - 21/7-10 @ $41.66 (free ship)
$199.92

I' have 14" long spoon style tire irons , maybe 4 of those, and standard tire irons. I figure a bit of soapy water, and pry. only problem would be keeping the wheel on the ground, which I can see is easier when the poster talked about leaning the bike on the side. The HF one I heard is a POS for changin real legit radial tires (like I wanted to get it for changing tires for my Ducati 1098S track bike, but I figured unrealistic especially with my $2500 wheels), but for dirt stuff like this, it may work just fine. Breaking the bead on my CRF150F is easiest, CRF450R a little more work due to MX tire. It'll be interesting to see how it goes with these wheels.

Thank you though, I am going to give it a try on my own first before taking to a shop. I love this crap.

 

[M_Quick]

Thanks. Good to know for the future. I got a good deal on a set at I think $202. It'll be interesting mounting these myself. Hah

$202 is a good deal, what brand did you go with? And for around $39.95 you can purchase the Harbor Freight tire changer. It's a decent tool and well worth the money if you plan on changing say more than 2 sets of tires. Most small tire shops will change them for like $5 a piece. And breaking the bead is by far harder than setting a bead. You can mount the tires by hand far easier than un-mounting.

2 of GBC XC-Master ATV Bias Tire - 20/11-9 @ $39.30 (free ship)
2 of GBC XC-Master ATV Bias Tire - 21/7-10 @ $41.66 (free ship)
$199.92

I' have 14" long spoon style tire irons , maybe 4 of those, and standard tire irons. I figure a bit of soapy water, and pry. only problem would be keeping the wheel on the ground, which I can see is easier when the poster talked about leaning the bike on the side. The HF one I heard is a POS for changin real legit radial tires (like I wanted to get it for changing tires for my Ducati 1098S track bike, but I figured unrealistic especially with my $2500 wheels), but for dirt stuff like this, it may work just fine. Breaking the bead on my CRF150F is easiest, CRF450R a little more work due to MX tire. It'll be interesting to see how it goes with these wheels.

Thank you though, I am going to give it a try on my own first before taking to a shop. I love this crap.

Yeah the HF tire changer is good for atv and lawn mower tires, I wouldn't use on high end stuff for sure. Your spoons will work once the bead is broken. To put tires on the wheel, I just place wheel on a piece of plywood soap and water and you can almost walk them on with your feet on a warm summer day. And yeah you found a great price on a awesome tire. I've had a set on my blk 700xx over 3 yrs now and they still look great. But this last July my son cut the rf sidewall.

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