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Working on 1997 Foreman 400 4x4. Back brakes were shot when I got it from a guy, totally rusted up. Took everything apart, cleaned and re-greased per Clymer manual. Finally get everything back together, go to slid the drum back on and it stops. It appears to be hanging up on the shoes. My local Honda shop sold the guy some EBC brakes, #351. They have verified that these are the correct shoes by application, but I cannot get the drum to slide over them. Has anyone else had a similar problem with EBC brakes or any brakes?? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 

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Yeah, I moved the adjuster/brake cam around and they compressed a tiny bit more, but not enough for the drum to go on. I took everything back off thinking the drum was impacting something else. Put the old shoes back on, drum slid on no problem. Tried again with new shoes, no go. You can see where it is hitting the shoe, and it is not even close to going on.
 

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Welcome to the forums. I don't know what the problem could be, I've never had that problem. The inside of the drum doesn't have rust on it, does it?
 

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Good to be here. I've already gotten a lot of good info just looking around.

There was some corrosion inside the drum, but I sanded it down really well initially, then went back again last night and worked it a little more just to sure there were no high spots or blemishes on the drum. I am stumped myself. The only thing I can think of is some issue with the shoes. I am going to the Honda place today and look at another set to me sure the ones I have were not mis-boxed or something. Like I said, it's almost as if the brake material is too tall. After reading some posts on here, it seems the brakes are not that great anyway. I wonder if I removed some of the brake material via sanding if it would adversely affect anything?? What say you?
 

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I wonder if I removed some of the brake material via sanding if it would adversely affect anything?? What say you?
It wouldn't hurt anything as long as the shoes are too big to fit inside the drum. It won't hurt the stopping ability of the shoes.

BTW, there should be a round ring that fits on the inside of the outer edge of the drum. Make sure it isn't catching on that.
 

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The ring that I'm talking about is #3 in the diagram below.

 

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Before I started altering the shoes, I'd take them back to the dealer, compare them to another set and tell them they just don't fit.

Just be sure the adjusters are pulled all the way back in.
 

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Yeah, that ring was corroded pretty good, so I pried it out, sanded it down and cleaned the groove out. Then I tried to install the drum without it just to see if it would fit, still no go.

Just got back from the dealer. Parts guy spoke with his senior tech and tech said he had to previously modify this particular brand of shoes because it is made to fit 5 different models. So I guess it is on to the belt sander. Why don't they just keep OE parts in stock instead of aftermarket junk and you won't have this problem?

Anyway, thanks for the input. I'm sure it won't be the last time I have a question!!
 

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I'm sort of shocked the dealer wouldn't carry oem parts, unless he didn't want to stock 5 different parts when one is enough, even if it requires modification for some machines. What ever the reason, I'm certain it all boils down to money.
 

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I'm sort of shocked the dealer wouldn't carry oem parts, unless he didn't want to stock 5 different parts when one is enough, even if it requires modification for some machines. What ever the reason, I'm certain it all boils down to money.
I have seen dealers carry a lot of aftermarket parts and I believe they do this because they can get them cheaper and thus make more money off the parts.

I might be wrong, but that's what I think. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
 

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