[tarheelblues]

im to mad and frustrated to explain why at this point but what is the best way to access the top of the piston on my 300ex?,,ok ill tell ya,,i was trying to adjust the valves and long story short there is now a 3/4inch piece of a plastic pen(the end) sitting down on top of my piston,any help is greatly appreciated

 

[Redracer]

Strat at the valve cover and start pulling stuff off.

 

[TRX2fiveO]

A PEN! well Red is correct bro, it's really not as bad as you think though but I think I would try fishing first go to Lowes or Home depot and buy a 5/16 wooden dowl rod get you some 3M two sided adhesive cut it to fit the dowl stick it to the end. jack up the rear of the quad put it in like 3rd or 4th so you can grab the tire and bump it over easier, if you can shine a light down the plug hole and see the pen you can stick the dowl in the hole and press it to the pen, be paitent it will work, but thats why it caled fishing and not catching right? lol. Also it may be easier to remove the tank and front plastics.

 

[tarheelblues]

tank and plastics are already off,i tried fishing a while last night but the problem im having is the piece is laying flat and is to wide to pull through the plug hole,so it has to be stood on end and pulled back out the way it went in if that makes sense,,i just didnt want to spend a ton of time fishing just to come to the conclusion it has to come apart,,im gonna try some more though,,,,,and yeah a friggin PEN!! lol thanks for the responses guys

 

[TRX2fiveO]

You can use the Items I described it will wor you can even use a smaller dowl so you can see inside better just try to stick the end, taking it apart would be a last resort for me, goo thing its plactic you could also break it up with something and take a shovac and reduce the hose down to something that fits around the plug hole not necessarily in it though and suck it out. if you have it on TDC all the valve are closed so it will create a vaccum.

Why a pen? were you trying to autograph your piston??? LMAO jk I know this has to be frustrating.

 

[Helmut]

Good luck getting it out. If you can't get it out that way, you will have to pull the valve cover and the head off.

 

[tarheelblues]

moose,everybody knows you use a sharpie to autograph a piston,,duh lol..
like a dummy i was using a pen instead of a screwdriver to try and see when the piston was on top,,guess as the piston came up the pen got angled such a way that it snapped the end off the pen,,i can giggle now but man what a ordeal..dang thing has been 12 yrs without valve adjustment and i think its trying to tell me it didnt want any adjustment..

 

[Helmut]

If I do that, I usually use a wooden dowel, but yeah, I've seen the piston come up and the wooden dowel hang, like you are talking about. Did you get it out without pulling the head?

 

[tarheelblues]

havent gotten it out yet,,but gonna try the dowel and tape deal hopefully tonight,,im a service plumber and ive been oncall all weekend so its been hard to find time..

if i have to pull the head off i probably should have a manual i guess?for torque specs and what not

 

[Helmut]

havent gotten it out yet,,but gonna try the dowel and tape deal hopefully tonight,,im a service plumber and ive been oncall all weekend so its been hard to find time..

if i have to pull the head off i probably should have a manual i guess?for torque specs and what not

A manual would come in handy, but if you don't get a manual, I could post pages of whatever you need to know. I have a 300EX manual.

 

[Fastas]

lol just dont go to home depot i work for lowes they are better, i know off subject just had to say it. Good luck fishing

 

[TRX2fiveO]

lol just dont go to home depot i work for lowes they are better, i know off subject just had to say it. Good luck fishing

LMAO!!! I suppose Lowes uses higher quality wood huh? not every town is fortunate enough to have a lowes those who aren't get Home Depots...LMAO

 

[tarheelblues]

i can not believe it but my buddy just called me said he got the piece out,,he lives in my nieghborhood and has a huge heated and cooled garage so thats where i do my wrench turning..thanks for the help and advice guys

 

[Helmut]

Glad you got it out. That saved you a little work and aggravation.

 

[TRX2fiveO]

How did he get it out???

 

[tarheelblues]

rigged up a small hose and a shop vac and pulled it out ..looks like ill be ready for a ride this weekend after all:yeahbaby01:

 

[Billy250X]

Glad to here that bro.

 

[tarheelblues]

guys please tell me what im doing wrong,,,i used a couple different methods to find top dead center but i never get play in all 4 rockers? the link i got from here said if you dont have play in all 4 then its not t.d.c. and to try again?

 

[Helmut]

guys please tell me what im doing wrong,,,i used a couple different methods to find top dead center but i never get play in all 4 rockers? the link i got from here said if you dont have play in all 4 then its not t.d.c. and to try again?

Maybe some of your valves are adjusted up a little too tight.
Did you line the T mark on the flywheel up with the notch on the case?

 

[tarheelblues]

yeah thats the mark i use,,and this is the first adjustment its ever gotten,i bought it new in 1998

whats the part about timing marks on the sprocket?