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Hello. Im new to the forums as far as just registering but I've been reading over different things here for along time. I have just recently started fixing up my 1998 honda 300 fourtrax 4x4. I replaced all the seals and bearings on the rear end, put a 2 inch lift on it and 27" tires. I felt that everything went well so I tested it a couple of days ago and had no problems. I went thrue several decent mud holes but nothing serious. After the ride I checked it over and found that the left side axle nuts near the final drive were both loose. I went and checked the rear diff fluid and found that it was bad murky brown so I must have not placed a seal right or something i guess. I stuck my finger down in there and found metal shavings. I will tear it down tom morning and see how much damage ive done. Could the axle nuts being loose cause the shavings? Any help would be great. Thanks
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lol ok i have both front shafts out. Im not sure how you tell wether or not the cv joints are bad or not but they both move fine without and hangups or anything. Before I pulled anything off I grabbed the shaft and pulled it in every direction and there was no play on either side. I took a few pictures. I did find some bearings that were completly shot. Im hoping this is what is causing my poping type sound.

http://img215.imageshack.us/i/frontshaft.jpg/


This is where the bearing are.


http://img683.imageshack.us/i/frontbearings.jpg/


This boot on both sides look like this. is this normal?


http://img243.imageshack.us/i/frontshaftboot.jpg/
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If the knuckle bearings were bad, then that might be the only problem.

Those axle boots aren't normal. It looks like someone has put them on and didn't equalize the pressure. You'll have to take a clamp off and take a small screwdriver and slide under the edge of the boot to let air into the boot. Those CV joints slide back and forth on the axle. Someone probably put the clamps back on the boot with the cv joint in the compressed position and then the axle pulled back apart and it didn't have enough air in the boot.
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Ok i toor into the front differential and it is perfect. We had the axles replaced by the honda shop mabye a lil over a year back so Im guessing the bearing and everything were replaced also because they look brand new. I dont feel like the cv joints are bad but i need to fix that boot. Ill replace the nuckle bareings and see if that stops the noise.
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Well everything is put back together and the locker is in place. Y'all had me worried lol but it turned out not bad at all. Only time I feel it's hard to turn Is when I'm in reverse but even still it's not bad. I replaced the nuckel bearings and seals and the piping sound I had is gone. Every once in a while when I turn as sharp as it will go I hear a very light pop but it doesn't sound like I need to worry about it. As far as the boot I took one clamp off and tried to get it to pop back out but it wouldn't. The Honda shop said sometimes that happens? I went ahead and regreased them anyways. I'm rdy to take it out now. Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it.
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tx3kgtman said:
Well everything is put back together and the locker is in place. Y'all had me worried lol but it turned out not bad at all. Only time I feel it's hard to turn Is when I'm in reverse but even still it's not bad. I replaced the nuckel bearings and seals and the piping sound I had is gone. Every once in a while when I turn as sharp as it will go I hear a very light pop but it doesn't sound like I need to worry about it. As far as the boot I took one clamp off and tried to get it to pop back out but it wouldn't. The Honda shop said sometimes that happens? I went ahead and regreased them anyways. I'm rdy to take it out now. Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it.
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The boots had probably been like that too long to spring back to shape.

My Grizzly has the pushbutton locker and when I lock it, it's pretty hard to steer, but I guess it's a lot heavier than the 300. Glad it worked out for you.
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Helmut said:
tx3kgtman said:
Well everything is put back together and the locker is in place. Y'all had me worried lol but it turned out not bad at all. Only time I feel it's hard to turn Is when I'm in reverse but even still it's not bad. I replaced the nuckel bearings and seals and the piping sound I had is gone. Every once in a while when I turn as sharp as it will go I hear a very light pop but it doesn't sound like I need to worry about it. As far as the boot I took one clamp off and tried to get it to pop back out but it wouldn't. The Honda shop said sometimes that happens? I went ahead and regreased them anyways. I'm rdy to take it out now. Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it.
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The boots had probably been like that too long to spring back to shape.

My Grizzly has the pushbutton locker and when I lock it, it's pretty hard to steer, but I guess it's a lot heavier than the 300. Glad it worked out for you.
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Yeh that's what I figure on heavy atvs it would prolly make it a lot harder.
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