[mljaco01]

I'm an industrial and interaction design student at Syracuse University (New York) and I am working on my thesis, I am hoping to design a product that will help reduce the number of child fatalities from ATV accidents. If you have any knowledge on this topic please contact me! I am looking to speak to anyone with insight.

Another more specific note; if you have a child under the age of 12 please talk to me! This is my demographic and it's been difficult to find people who have first hand knowledge!

 

[mrbb]

welcome to the site
IMO< the best thing/device that can be used to save kids from getting hurt, is parents using there brains, and making sure a kid learns right from wrong, and only rides wearing good fitting safety gear
if you wanted to design a device to HELP make things safer, I would suggest a remote control to SHUT down a atv, so when kids DON"T be listening or paying attention, you can shut them down without needing to be with them!

 

[_Wilson_]

Welcome t the forums

Exactly ^^^^^ with an added twist, I've seen my neighbor crash twice in last month with a 4 year old in his lap, both went flying n nether had riding gear, AND thankfully just skint up some.....father has no brains< (fact) and no sence when it comes to atvs....makes me angry.... the police in my area won't raise a brow, i hear alot of ems calls for just this type of accidents , point being you can't fix stupid, just get out of the way.....

 

[JustInMaine]

Welcome t the forums

Exactly ^^^^^ with an added twist, I've seen my neighbor crash twice in last month with a 4 year old in his lap, both went flying n nether had riding gear, AND thankfully just skint up some.....father has no brains< (fact) and no sence when it comes to atvs....makes me angry.... the police in my area won't raise a brow, i hear alot of ems calls for just this type of accidents , point being you can't fix stupid, just get out of the way.....

So you don't report it because you "think" they won't do something? If the police won't call your local warden. You seeing it and not reporting it ant gonna save that kids life. You could be the one who saves him/her

 

[_Wilson_]

Welcome t the forums

Exactly ^^^^^ with an added twist, I've seen my neighbor crash twice in last month with a 4 year old in his lap, both went flying n nether had riding gear, AND thankfully just skint up some.....father has no brains< (fact) and no sence when it comes to atvs....makes me angry.... the police in my area won't raise a brow, i hear alot of ems calls for just this type of accidents , point being you can't fix stupid, just get out of the way.....

So you don't report it because you "think" they won't do something? If the police won't call your local warden. You seeing it and not reporting it ant gonna save that kids life. You could be the one who saves him/her

I have reported it , that's how I know they just drive by looking, was told if they don't see it happen....... They basically won't check too much.....

 

[mrbb]

Welcome t the forums

Exactly ^^^^^ with an added twist, I've seen my neighbor crash twice in last month with a 4 year old in his lap, both went flying n nether had riding gear, AND thankfully just skint up some.....father has no brains< (fact) and no sence when it comes to atvs....makes me angry.... the police in my area won't raise a brow, i hear alot of ems calls for just this type of accidents , point being you can't fix stupid, just get out of the way.....

So you don't report it because you "think" they won't do something? If the police won't call your local warden. You seeing it and not reporting it ant gonna save that kids life. You could be the one who saves him/her

police and wardens in my area WON"T do anything unless there riding where they should;t be
need a Lic to drive a car, yet any one can have a kid and ??Raise it??

I think a BIG part of things today is TOO many parents want there kids to be there FRIENDS, more than be parents to them
they want them to have things they didn't as a kid,
but forget that many of us older folks, learned how to ride pedal bikes, learned about falling down, and what to do and NOT to do, without a motor driving us
they stick kids on ATV's cause there so EASY for any idiot to ride
KIDS don't have the experience to understand things like gravity momentum and such, just due to they ain't been about long enough to GET IT
ATV's are just EASY things low level skills are needed to drive on
its why you see SO many folks letting small kids drive Full sized atv's
as they think CAUSE the kid can steer it, all will be fine
its poor judgement that gets most kids into trouble , and again, when you skip a lot of steps, many older folks had before they GOT an atv or drove one
the experience is just NOT there for kids today as IMO yrs back
because so many kids today IMO are spoiled, they skipped from crawling/walking/running right to things with motors
I seldom if ever see a kid anymore on a pedal bike riding off road or on roads for that matter
but see lots of kids driving atv's, both kids sized one's and fullsized one's
and HOW many parents are BAD example's Never wearing a helmet or other safety gear
what do you think kids think about that?
they do what they SEE, only maybe kids heads are still soft yet??
as some adults I know seem to have heads like a rock< LOL not much gets in or out!

 

[fishfiles]

Kids today are more advanced then years ago in some ways and in other ways not ----- my friends grandson just got a 2017 Honda 90 , $2,600 , he turned 6 years old a month ago , he rides the hell out of it , they did govern it down , but it is still fast , at least they have him geared up with chest protector , helmet and boots , persoanlly think he is a little too young for it ------ I doubt any more laws or regulations would do any good

 

[alloutdoors]

I'm an industrial and interaction design student at Syracuse University (New York) and I am working on my thesis, I am hoping to design a product that will help reduce the number of child fatalities from ATV accidents. If you have any knowledge on this topic please contact me! I am looking to speak to anyone with insight.

Another more specific note; if you have a child under the age of 12 please talk to me! This is my demographic and it's been difficult to find people who have first hand knowledge!

IMO, the top two issues are: a) speed and b) lack of training. As ATVs advance, I could see an app or plug in where someone can set the level of throttle and monitor the riding habits. As for training, new comers to riding would benefit from "learning" the do's and don'ts on a ATV, i.e., trying hill climbing, turning fast, throttle, descending down a hill, adding fuel, etc....

Education can be a powerful tool and the lack thereof can be dangerous, so having responsible guardians/parents are important too.

 

[mac102004]

Most of the ATV deaths around here are guys 40-60 years old and typically intoxicated, or people riding 2up on a 1 rider machine. The occasional kid under 12 or so looses their life and usually they are not driving a youth ATV.

On another note, here in NS we have quite a few laws regarding ATV use, helmets, insurance, mandatory safety training etc the usual stuff. IIRC you are not allowed to operate an ATV at all if your are under 12 but I'd have to read the book again, may be only on public land it's illegal if perhaps unsupervised. But I do recall a few years back an organization bought a bunch of youth ATV's for training courses and were not able to use any of them.


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[SamUK]

The top and bottom of it is this... MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS. Anything on wheels, be it a skateboard, BMX, ATV, dirt bike.
It's a bit like saying a particular breed of dog is nasty... Their not, it's just irresponsible owners... Same with ATVs, irresponsible owners who have no care for their own or others safety. Unfortunately you can't educate those that don't want to be educated.

 

[mrbb]

Mac also a LOT of youth atv's are NOT even legal on many atv trails, as there too small and , many lands Ins, won;'t cover them on there, due to higher risks from kids and well adults on same trails/

and yes, many more deaths on adults here and 99% are alcohol related when they do,and almost never is the rider wearing a helmet , which is actually a LAW in PA, but as many others seldom enforced, until an accident maybe happens and then they get a fine while in the Hospital LOL
and I agree, its way more common to see a kid driving a BIG atv than a kids one when out and about
as like Is aid, ATv's are just way too easy to operate on basic trails
but way easy for a NON experienced driver to get in over there heads , due to lack of skill sets or experience, or even SIZE, a 60 lb kid on a 700 lbs atv?? add in some speed, and
can spell disaster real fast!

 

[UnkleRaRa]

Inflatable riding gear like you can get for street bikes I think would be a good idea, especially for kids.

 

[Larryw]

More kids die of choking on a spoon than on atv accidents in N. America. And with both of them all but a few could be prevented with a dose of parental common sense and supervision.. There, that is my thesis on this issue!! IF Not long enough for the professors to dissect and throw their left wing nut job conclusions at then by all means LEAVE A MESSAGE AFTER THE BEEP!!

 

[fishfiles]

What it all boils down to is : everything that is fun in life falls in three categories , bad for your health , against the law or a sin , if it doesn't fall in to one of those three categories , there is always a bird dog group do a study or thesis trying to fit it in to one of the categories

 

[Goober]

Welcome to the site
If you're working on a thesis you might already know you need to analyze data.
Collect data on child atv deaths; analyze the data to determine predominant cause of death. Are you there yet?

 

[one1]

#1 cause of atv riding accidents are the kids watching someone say "Hold my beer".

 

[SamUK]

Mixed views, all pointing roughly towards the same reasons.

 

[fishfiles]

I feel sorry for kids today , there is really nothing for them to do , there are things for them to do which were not around when I was a kid , but they mostly cost money , when I was a kid we fished , hunted , swam , skied and rode motorcycles every day , after school I was in the house 10 minutes max , to change clothes and get a bite to eat , no internet or TV to waste time , clog and pollute your mind

My buddies son is a A student senior , he has his own car , drivers license and insurance but his mom still drives him to school every day , he just got a really nice 4 wheeler last year , I have never seen some one so afraid of spiders , snakes and just plain old bugs , he will not go into the woods by himself when they come over to ride with us , he is ant'sy wanting to ride , but unless someone goes with him , he will will not go 10 ft into the trails , instead he rides the bike up and down the black top waiting for the crew to ride , he won't even walk into the trees when he has to pee in the woods , he never steps off the dirt trails , he is heavy into watching horror flicks , have seen him freak out when he rode thru a banana spider web and the spider was on him , he liked to crash into a tree , jumped off the bike and was doing the dance , if I could have got a video of that , it would have got a few million hits on u-tube ----now when I am having trouble with mirroring to the outside tv or a WiFi problem , he is a wiz , cause that is all he does , tv , internet and video gaming ------- it really isn't his fault he lived in the city and stood in the house every minute of the day in front of a screen

 

[mljaco01]

Thanks for the replies everyone! It took me a while to notice them because I am new here lol.

You have all provided me with very valid points;

I am considering designing a sort of torso protection that would do everything a normal chest/torso protector does currently, but also is load bearing in the event of a child stuck underneath an ATV upon roll-over. I am wondering if anyone has any thoughts, suggestions, opinions, or concerns, relating to a personal safety protector of this type.

Also, if you have any insight into what the most fatal types of injuries from ATVs are for children, and/or suggestions on product-based things that can be done to help!

Thanks again!
Marissa

 

[mljaco01]

Yes, I have been analyzing data I have found on the CPSC's website about accidents and injuries, however, I am struggling to find information about which specific injuries are the most common fatally, as they normally just list them as 'fatal' without going into detail about the specific injuries.