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Folks, I am new to ATV world and recently sank my rancher(2015 DCT EPS 4x4) into a river(no excuse, a boneheaded mistake). Long story short, got water into the engine but manage to fix it by flushing pretty much all the fluids and changing all the filters). The engine runs normal now(thank goodness). However, there is a new issue: when I put on gears, either D or R, the vehicle start to get really jerky, feels like it's trying to jump forward/backward. But if I let the brake go and give it a little gas, it will run smooth again. Any clue what is going on, and how to fix it? Thanks in advance!
 

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What oil for the engine are you running? Exactly, what make and weight? Since you are new, please understand that your bike has a wet clutch that cannot tolerate just any old oil on the shelf. If the oil is not "JASO MA" rated for wet clutches, you could have just trashed the friction disks in your clutch pack.

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Of course, I understand -- the oil I used is "Honda Pro Honda GN4 Motor Oil - 10W30", this is the only oil I've ever put into the engine. Thanks!

What oil for the engine are you running? Exactly, what make and weight? Since you are new, please understand that your bike has a wet clutch that cannot tolerate just any old oil on the shelf. If the oil is not "JASO MA" rated for wet clutches, you could have just trashed the friction disks in your clutch pack.

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hate to tell you, but flushing a motor doesn't fix damages done or to be done, its like buying a lottery ticket, some times you win, MOST times you loose!
do a search on any ATV forum about ATV soon smoking after sinking and flushing motor????
Fingers crossed for you, but heads up!
I;'d do a compression test NOW get a base line and check down the road!

as for possible issue?
maybe the new brain on this thing got wet and needs a re flash from dealer, water does silly things to things!
Just an idea??
 

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Thank you, I did research quite extensively on how to rescue the water damaged ATV. And I did everything within my mechanic capability to do so. So far the machine idles normal, sounds normal and no smoke or anything. It drives normal as well except what I described in the post.
If this is indeed something more serious and need real mechanic work, I will take it to the shop for sure. I just hope this jerky "condition" is something can be adjusted quite easily so I can save some money. Thanks again for your input!

hate to tell you, but flushing a motor doesn't fix damages done or to be done, its like buying a lottery ticket, some times you win, MOST times you loose!
do a search on any ATV forum about ATV soon smoking after sinking and flushing motor????
Fingers crossed for you, but heads up!
I;'d do a compression test NOW get a base line and check down the road!

as for possible issue?
maybe the new brain on this thing got wet and needs a re flash from dealer, water does silly things to things!
Just an idea??
 

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the deal with sinking a motor is this, dirt and crap come into motor with water
its IMPOSSIBLE to get ALL that all out flushing the motor
your motor may run and idle fine and NOT smoke right NOW
but down the road the crap left inside can eat away things and as time goes by, you will end up with a bigger repair on your hands
LIKE I said, its like a lottery ticket, some times you get LUCKY and never have issue
s some times you DON"T

as I suggested, DO a compression test NOW< to get a number
check in 20-25 hrs and see if its dropping, if NOT, check again in another 25-30 hrs

if it is then dropping?
, your going to be in for motor work, from what was left inside the motor from sinking it
its simple to do a compression test, if you don';t have a tool to do so, MOST chain auto parts store will loan you one for FREE< just give a deposit, and then get deposit back when you return it!

its a GOOD idea if you ask me, then you know where your headed or NOT

damage to a motor can happen SLOW or FAST< all comes down to HOW Much crap got in and how much got OUT

NOT trying to scare you, just offering you some advice and info, and a way to keep track of things to see whats going on!
 

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Thank you sir, I think I am just gonna quit messing it around anymore and just send it to the shop. I appreciate your input!

the deal with sinking a motor is this, dirt and crap come into motor with water
its IMPOSSIBLE to get ALL that all out flushing the motor
your motor may run and idle fine and NOT smoke right NOW
but down the road the crap left inside can eat away things and as time goes by, you will end up with a bigger repair on your hands
LIKE I said, its like a lottery ticket, some times you get LUCKY and never have issue
s some times you DON"T

as I suggested, DO a compression test NOW< to get a number
check in 20-25 hrs and see if its dropping, if NOT, check again in another 25-30 hrs

if it is then dropping?
, your going to be in for motor work, from what was left inside the motor from sinking it
its simple to do a compression test, if you don';t have a tool to do so, MOST chain auto parts store will loan you one for FREE< just give a deposit, and then get deposit back when you return it!

its a GOOD idea if you ask me, then you know where your headed or NOT

damage to a motor can happen SLOW or FAST< all comes down to HOW Much crap got in and how much got OUT

NOT trying to scare you, just offering you some advice and info, and a way to keep track of things to see whats going on!
 

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if you do take it to the dealer to have it worked on ?, if you by any chance still have a warranty on it ?, you can kiss it goodbye if you tell them, or they see it was sunk ?!. they will void any warranty if it was sunk !. I know this for a fact.
 

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In case you havent, did you change your gear & brake oils as well?(Maybe i missed it) Could be water in there locking things up a little..Just a thought. & Its an ATV...stuff like that happens.
just gonna touch base on your very last line ^^^, '' its an ATV...stuff like that happens '' well sir, let me see if I can set ya straight ?, ATV does not stand for, or mean RIDE ANY WHERE, EVERY WHERE ?, IT MEANS, ALL TERRIAN VEHICAL, pretty sure this does not include WATER, LAKES, RIVERS, PONDS ?. I can see us trying to cross a short stream ?, or some short mud hole ?, BUT NOT LAKES,RIVERS, PONDS JUST TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN IN THEM ?!. they make things called...BOATS for this..right ?..lol. everyone has their way of fun ?, I get this, but at what cost is this fun...FUN ?!, guess more people than me have deeper pockets, cuz I know I don't ?, so I stay on DRY LAND..LOL.
 

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In case you havent, did you change your gear & brake oils as well?(Maybe i missed it) Could be water in there locking things up a little..Just a thought. & Its an ATV...stuff like that happens.
just gonna touch base on your very last line ^^^, '' its an ATV...stuff like that happens '' well sir, let me see if I can set ya straight ?, ATV does not stand for, or mean RIDE ANY WHERE, EVERY WHERE ?, IT MEANS, ALL TERRIAN VEHICAL, pretty sure this does not include WATER, LAKES, RIVERS, PONDS ?. I can see us trying to cross a short stream ?, or some short mud hole ?, BUT NOT LAKES,RIVERS, PONDS JUST TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN IN THEM ?!. they make things called...BOATS for this..right ?..lol. everyone has their way of fun ?, I get this, but at what cost is this fun...FUN ?!, guess more people than me have deeper pockets, cuz I know I don't ?, so I stay on DRY LAND..LOL.
Lol...yes, i am to the point i like grassy trails in the woods TBH. But hey...anyone who buys an "ATV" will take it places they likely shouldnt :wink:
 

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In case you havent, did you change your gear & brake oils as well?(Maybe i missed it) Could be water in there locking things up a little..Just a thought. & Its an ATV...stuff like that happens.
just gonna touch base on your very last line ^^^, '' its an ATV...stuff like that happens '' well sir, let me see if I can set ya straight ?, ATV does not stand for, or mean RIDE ANY WHERE, EVERY WHERE ?, IT MEANS, ALL TERRIAN VEHICAL, pretty sure this does not include WATER, LAKES, RIVERS, PONDS ?. I can see us trying to cross a short stream ?, or some short mud hole ?, BUT NOT LAKES,RIVERS, PONDS JUST TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN IN THEM ?!. they make things called...BOATS for this..right ?..lol. everyone has their way of fun ?, I get this, but at what cost is this fun...FUN ?!, guess more people than me have deeper pockets, cuz I know I don't ?, so I stay on DRY LAND..LOL.
The machine you need for THAT terrain is an Argo, and if you think an ATV is expensive to maintain wait until you try an Argo !! :sad:
 

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In case you havent, did you change your gear & brake oils as well?(Maybe i missed it) Could be water in there locking things up a little..Just a thought. & Its an ATV...stuff like that happens.
just gonna touch base on your very last line ^^^, '' its an ATV...stuff like that happens '' well sir, let me see if I can set ya straight ?, ATV does not stand for, or mean RIDE ANY WHERE, EVERY WHERE ?, IT MEANS, ALL TERRIAN VEHICAL, pretty sure this does not include WATER, LAKES, RIVERS, PONDS ?. I can see us trying to cross a short stream ?, or some short mud hole ?, BUT NOT LAKES,RIVERS, PONDS JUST TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN IN THEM ?!. they make things called...BOATS for this..right ?..lol. everyone has their way of fun ?, I get this, but at what cost is this fun...FUN ?!, guess more people than me have deeper pockets, cuz I know I don't ?, so I stay on DRY LAND..LOL.
Lol...yes, i am to the point i like grassy trails in the woods TBH. But hey...anyone who buys an "ATV" will take it places they likely shouldnt :wink:
lol, agreed :).
 

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In case you havent, did you change your gear & brake oils as well?(Maybe i missed it) Could be water in there locking things up a little..Just a thought. & Its an ATV...stuff like that happens.
just gonna touch base on your very last line ^^^, '' its an ATV...stuff like that happens '' well sir, let me see if I can set ya straight ?, ATV does not stand for, or mean RIDE ANY WHERE, EVERY WHERE ?, IT MEANS, ALL TERRIAN VEHICAL, pretty sure this does not include WATER, LAKES, RIVERS, PONDS ?. I can see us trying to cross a short stream ?, or some short mud hole ?, BUT NOT LAKES,RIVERS, PONDS JUST TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN IN THEM ?!. they make things called...BOATS for this..right ?..lol. everyone has their way of fun ?, I get this, but at what cost is this fun...FUN ?!, guess more people than me have deeper pockets, cuz I know I don't ?, so I stay on DRY LAND..LOL.
The machine you need for THAT terrain is an Argo, and if you think an ATV is expensive to maintain wait until you try an Argo !! :sad:
aren't those like 6 wheels or 8 ?, we have those here, talk about cash !..lol. have not seen one in a very long time !.
 

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SHade I agree with you, "THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN"
well, only when you put them in harms ways
have owned and rode a LOT of ATV's and off road toys and have YET to sink one, that got water in its motor! in 35 yrs or so

BUT I did once jump a MX bike into a lake on a dare, sort of expected to SINK that one, and I did, it sank like a rock
I had about 50 bucks into it, and didn;t care , and I did tear it all all down and rebuild it, and sold it a yr later for a couple hundred bucks>? LOL

Sorry to teh OP< But I personally think, all THINGS LIKE THIS can be prevented without much effort, BUT??
as they say, LIVE and LEARN, and we all have done something dumb or a LOT of dumb things, over the yrs if we looked back I am sure
I know I sure have, so I ain';t throwing stones here LOL
 

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SHade I agree with you, "THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN"
well, only when you put them in harms ways
have owned and rode a LOT of ATV's and off road toys and have YET to sink one, that got water in its motor! in 35 yrs or so

BUT I did once jump a MX bike into a lake on a dare, sort of expected to SINK that one, and I did, it sank like a rock
I had about 50 bucks into it, and didn;t care , and I did tear it all all down and rebuild it, and sold it a yr later for a couple hundred bucks>? LOL

Sorry to teh OP< But I personally think, all THINGS LIKE THIS can be prevented without much effort, BUT??
as they say, LIVE and LEARN, and we all have done something dumb or a LOT of dumb things, over the yrs if we looked back I am sure
I know I sure have, so I ain';t throwing stones here LOL
yep, when things '' HAPPEN '' ?...IT'S BECAUSE YOU FORCED IT TOO HAPPEN !..LOL. i'm almost sure, those lakes, ponds, rivers..just don't jump out from where they sit ? and FIND THIER WAY UNDER YOUR ATV TIRES HUH ?..LOL. but..like I said, everyone has their idea of fun ?, mine is not tossing unneeded money at my atv because I thought for a min it was UNSINKABLE !..LOL. and yes..even I, has done stupid stuff in my 52 years ?, but I've learned a lot from those stupid times ?..DON'T KEEP DOING IT !..LMFAO.
 

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Hey guys, I had my rancher back today. Turned out the problem is my IACV didn't get installed correctly(I uninstall it earlier). They did other tests and everything is fine. Cost me 90 bucks for the diagnosis and stuff. Good to go now! Thank you all for the input!
 

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Hopefully you don't have trouble from all that dirt and stuff still in the cases.
 

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Did someone say Argo?

 
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