... well I probably wont be the most visiting member but I just recently started working on bikes.. no Hondas yet.. I have a Yamaha timberwolf 250 I'm working on currently.. I figured out they didn't make 420 automatics after I did some researching. when I told him what he had, about two hours later he replied " its a 420 though" so I had to research to be sure. thanks for the replies guys. Ill be around probably bc I'm buying me a Honda bike soon.. just trying not to jump into anything.. I'm thinking the new route.. I seen where a 420 rancher was going for under 7k at the dealership with the right options.. what is the ES IRS DPS? those cost more are they just fancy add ons?