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This is my first honda, I'm used to working on CVT's.


How difficult is a gear reduction to do? One guy told me he had to take the entire engine out and apart to do a GR. Is this true?

I am fairly confident in my skills and I had decent tools and space.

If its the first time doing a gear reduction, how many hours are involved?

atv is a 2017 rubicon DCT, IRS, EPS
 

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Best advice.... Wait until your warranty is up before you do serious mods ;-)
 

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If you are experienced it'll take about 4 hours to dissemble the motor and parts of the atv depending on if you are getting a primary or secondary reduction. I had a guy do mine and it took him about 4 hours, he was very experienced. It cost a pretty penny for the install and the reduction itself but in the end it is worth it especially if you are running huge mud tires on a smaller bike (rancher).
 

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as said ^^^^, you better wait until warranty is over !, unless you got money to burn ?..lol. if you do what your wanting ?, and it breaks down ?, Honda won't cover anything on it because you mod'ed it !.
 

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^^ You are completely correct on waiting till the warranty is up. I should have stated that after it's up, you should do what ever mods you want.
 
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^^ You are completely correct on waiting till the warranty is up. I should have stated that after it's up, you should do what ever mods you want.
yeah..Honda does not like owners doing large stuff to a brand new atv under warranty...lol. snorkels ?..haha..good luck trying to get Honda to cover a broken atv with a snorkel on it !!..lol.
 

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voided warranty is my middle name lol. I probably wouldn't snorkel a new machine but some things are fine, tires, wheels, exhaust, etc. small stuff. GR is arguable. Would have to have caused the issue you are trying to get fixed under warranty.
 

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I'm like Mac. Warranties are meaningless to me... I'm buying an expensive new pro model chainsaw this week and I'm gonna rip it down and port it, mod the ignition timing and mod the muffler, before I even try to start it for the first time!

But I wonder if a GR is even feasible on the new rides because of the electronic controls? For one, the two VS sensors are tied to both the ECM and PGM/FI, so DCT shifting AND engine drive-ability factors will definitely be affected. Has anyone else done it on a new one successfully yet?
 

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I'm like Mac. Warranties are meaningless to me... I'm buying an expensive new pro model chainsaw this week and I'm gonna rip it down and port it, mod the ignition timing and mod the muffler, before I even try to start it for the first time!

But I wonder if a GR is even feasible on the new rides because of the electronic controls? For one, the two VS sensors are tied to both the ECM and PGM/FI, so DCT shifting AND engine drive-ability factors will definitely be affected. Has anyone else done it on a new one successfully yet?
I suspect you can forget about using the auto shift mode after installing it, I really don't see how it wouldn't screw up the shift points really. ESP mode would still function though.
 

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I'm like Mac. Warranties are meaningless to me... I'm buying an expensive new pro model chainsaw this week and I'm gonna rip it down and port it, mod the ignition timing and mod the muffler, before I even try to start it for the first time!

But I wonder if a GR is even feasible on the new rides because of the electronic controls? For one, the two VS sensors are tied to both the ECM and PGM/FI, so DCT shifting AND engine drive-ability factors will definitely be affected. Has anyone else done it on a new one successfully yet?

Yep. I did FM secondary in my wife's DCT Rancher. As yall said, it wouldn't work in autoshift afterwards, so I ordered a shift module from Rapid Revolutions. Shifts like factory now. They make one for the Rincon too (for those who do the BRGR).

Basically it takes the signal from the speed sensor and modifies it so the computer reads the signal and shifts at the correct points.

Wasn't too hard to install. Not cheap, but works great.
 
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