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Hello,

I am new to the forums. I came here because my front brakes and my parking brake on my 94 Fourtrax 300 4x4 absolutely do not work, at all! The rear brakes work, but could be better. Now, I am not like a mechanic or anything but I have worked on my ATV before. I have been looking through my manual and everywhere on the internet but I can not come up with any answers. My rear brake lever along with the cables are exactly the same as the one in the link..

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I have tightened the nut on the end of the cable as much as possible to put tension on the spring but the rear brakes still will just not work. When I pull the rear brake handle, I can feel slight tension but hardly any, at least not enough to stop the ATV. The parking brake is also useless. If I put the parking brake on, I can just push my ATV and it is like the parking brake wasn't even pulled. I have been also trying to locate where my brake pads are on my ATV, remember, I am new to this... but I can not find them in my manual at all.

Any help will be greatly appreciated because I do not know what I need to do... I am guessing it is the brake pads but then again there is hardly any tension on the brake lever. Thank you all in advance.
 

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GET A SERVICE AND OR REPAIR MANUAL!!!!!!! The pads are most likely bad. The parking brakes on ATV's never reaolly work that great any how. Also Check your fluids in the brake resevoir if it has hydralic brakes. Let us know when you find more out.
 

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Hi,

If you did not notice, I did say that I have a manual.

"I have been looking through my manual and everywhere on the internet but I can not come up with any answers."
I do not have hydraulic brakes. The parking brake on my ATV when I first got it worked great. Any more help would be appreciated.

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Are these drum brakes?? also if you could post us some pics of your brake system we may be able to help you better.
 

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Drum brakes are quite different looking from disc brakes. I would say if they are drum and you have never put any on there is a good chance they are worn out. post up the pic when you can so we can look at what we're working with.
 

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What kind of manual is it not to have brakes in it???? My honda service manuals have a section on them. Manual brakes are a pain. I talked to a friend and his has drums. thats probly what you have. Your pads are most likely worn. On the back axle it has a big round thing with a pull rod coming from up front. That is your rear drum. I cant tell you how to get it apart unless it was infront of me. The front breaks are behind the wheels, both front wheels like a car. You'll need to pull the wheels off to get to them. get them a part and inspect your pads. You maybe able to see a brake wear indicator on the bake of the hub my buddy said they are not bad to replace. Just a little time consuming.
 

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X2.... on the manual comment I just looked in mine I got detailed instructions in my manual on brakes.



What kind of manual is it not to have brakes in it???? My honda service manuals have a section on them. Manual brakes are a pain. I talked to a friend and his has drums. thats probly what you have. Your pads are most likely worn. On the back axle it has a big round thing with a pull rod coming from up front. That is your rear drum. I cant tell you how to get it apart unless it was infront of me. The front breaks are behind the wheels, both front wheels like a car. You'll need to pull the wheels off to get to them. get them a part and inspect your pads. You maybe able to see a brake wear indicator on the bake of the hub my buddy said they are not bad to replace. Just a little time consuming.
 

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Mine is an actual Honda sevice manual also they arent cheap but they are very detailed with pics,flow charts, specs. and electrical diagrams.

Sorry my manual has a pretty good section on the brakes. I got my manual at HONDA. Its not a Clymer or Chiltton manual its a Honda Service manual I paid like 45 for it. Its a pretty good one compared to others I ve seen
 

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Yeah this model had shoes front and rear. If you do not have anything front for pressure and rears are minimal I am going to say you are in need of new shoes. Remove the front wheels and there will be a brake drum on each side. You will need to remove the outside drum housing and the brake shoes are located inside. The rear brakes are just 1 set on the rear axle. you will see the housing when looking at it from the rear. You will be able to see if they brakes are worn down when you remove the shoes but they typically have approximately 1/4" of pad on them but make sure the brake system is moving freely there is a cam inside there that moves the shoes in and out which applies pressure to the outer drum. If you have any other questions let me know.

I can also give you a exact measurement on the amount of friction pad that should be on them if needed but my bet is they are worn out.

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X2Million!!!LOL I think an actual breakdown of the braking system will help him out better.


Yeah this model had shoes front and rear. If you do not have anything front for pressure and rears are minimal I am going to say you are in need of new shoes. Remove the front wheels and there will be a brake drum on each side. You will need to remove the outside drum housing and the brake shoes are located inside. The rear brakes are just 1 set on the rear axle. you will see the housing when looking at it from the rear. You will be able to see if they brakes are worn down when you remove the shoes but they typically have approximately 1/4" of pad on them but make sure the brake system is moving freely there is a cam inside there that moves the shoes in and out which applies pressure to the outer drum. If you have any other questions let me know.

I can also give you a exact measurement on the amount of friction pad that should be on them if needed but my bet is they are worn out.

Thanks

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Yes 4 wheel drum brake system with hydraulic drum in the front. There is a brake master cylinder on the handle bar with two Phillips screws holding the cap on,take the cap off and see where the fluid level is at.When you try to use the front brakes is there tension in the lever or does it just bottom out with no effort?
 

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Don't mean to high jack this thread but felt my situation is relavent and this thread is current. I have a 1988 FourTrax 200SX and the rear brakes were toast. I replaced them with a fresh set of pads. Prior to that I had adjusted the nut on the rear to its fullest extent in order to have brakes. Now I have nothing left to adjust to get brakes. I am not sure if the cables are stretched and therefore I can not adjust them. There is an arrow on the back. It says that if your brakes don't engage until those arrows meet then you need new pads. I have new pads and they do not engage until those arrows match up. And that is only with the foot brake pushed all the way down. The lever for the rear brake does not apply the brakes at all. Any help or recommendations are appreciated.
 

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Don't mean to high jack this thread but felt my situation is relavent and this thread is current. I have a 1988 FourTrax 200SX and the rear brakes were toast. I replaced them with a fresh set of pads. Prior to that I had adjusted the nut on the rear to its fullest extent in order to have brakes. Now I have nothing left to adjust to get brakes. I am not sure if the cables are stretched and therefore I can not adjust them. There is an arrow on the back. It says that if your brakes don't engage until those arrows meet then you need new pads. I have new pads and they do not engage until those arrows match up. And that is only with the foot brake pushed all the way down. The lever for the rear brake does not apply the brakes at all. Any help or recommendations are appreciated.
Are you getting movement in the drum?
 
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