[wildcat14]

I did a search about this so I wouldn't be asking something that's already been asked a hundred times but I couldn't really find anything. I have a 2000 Honda Foreman 450es and the front brakes stuck. The handle is in the unsqueezed position and barely moves when you squeeze it. It's full of brake fluid. Where would you guys reccomend I start?

 

[XJCountry]

I think there is a discussion on this, but it might be buried...

On mine, after changing the front CV axle.

I filled the 'caliper' (brake backer plate?) by loosening the bleeder valve, then with a syringe (all plastic type) I pumped brake fluid through until no bubbles. Keep the 'fill' side up so it doesn't leak. Tighten the bleeder. This was done with the caliper disconnected, completely.

Then I used the same syringe to pump up through the bottom fitting (you have to be creative to do this part) into the reservoir on the handle bar until full.

When full I held the fluid in the line with one hand, picked up the caliper with another hand, picked up the bolt with another hand and QUICKLY put them all together. You can do it if you have three hands and practice...or ask someone to help!

 

[wildcat14]

I cracked the brake line at the master cylinder and let a few drops of fluid out. The handle freed up and it rolls now. I didnt drive it. However, I'm guessing they will stick again.

 

[XJCountry]

a new master cylinder is pretty cheap. sounds like a back bleed valve is stuck or plugged.

 

[wildcat14]

I don’t think they came completely unstuck. I drove it a pretty short distance just now. They didn’t seem to get hot. However, when going slow one of them is poping a little. If I try to push it real slow, it’s like it will roll free a little then the break kinda pops and grabs. If I push a little harder, it seems to free back up.


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[wildcat14]

I guess I should say creaks instead of pops.


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[Macarena Man]

Pull the front drums off and have a look . . .
These are probably the easiest shoe/drum set-up there is.
Make sure that the grease is still in the sealer ring on the drum, and o-rings are good.
Betting you find moisture damage.
Clean it up and go. Easy stuff.

 

[wildcat14]

Pull the front drums off and have a look . . .
These are probably the easiest shoe/drum set-up there is.
Make sure that the grease is still in the sealer ring on the drum, and o-rings are good.
Betting you find moisture damage.
Clean it up and go. Easy stuff.

I'll have to do a little research on how to do that. I pushed it from behind a minute ago as I was leaving. Everytime I pushed it, it would creak and start rolling.

 

[LedFTed]

the front brakes should be hydraulic, with a master cylinder at the grip. i got a 2000es. 2 slave cylinders in each front wheel. i got 1 slave in each wheel that is not froze up. moisture gets in those drums. i also have problems with the master cylinder, getting moisture problems, and have taken it apart many times just to get the black gunk out, that builds up.
i dont know why so much moisture gets in the drums, or the system, but it does. i very seldom, got below water. its a honda thing, that came when i got my bike. of course, a farmer only drove the atv to check on his cows,. 1,200 miles when i got it. i got 2 wheel cylinders froze, 1 on each front wheel, i got to rework the master cylinder, got the kit, bought 2 new wheel cylinders, that are cheaper than trying to rebuild, still oem. stopping the water that gets in there, wont be solved by honda. they dont care. its old. doubt they care about new. i hate to say, if we are dumb enough to buy it, they will be happy to sell it.
it works for china,, why not. i best quit, while i am some ahead. :smile
the wheel cylinders that are froze up, can be taken off an reworked. there is a thread or post here somewhere, i might be involved for my problems...

 

[LedFTed]

I did a search about this so I wouldn't be asking something that's already been asked a hundred times but I couldn't really find anything. I have a 2000 Honda Foreman 450es and the front brakes stuck. The handle is in the unsqueezed position and barely moves when you squeeze it. It's full of brake fluid. Where would you guys reccomend I start?

good luck with a search. you have to word it in a way, the search engine works. i cant do it. dyslexia makes for a bad search..

 

[wildcat14]

I rode it a short piece yesterday, that's all I had time to do. The side that creaks started to get hot so I parked it. Its got to still be stuck some. I cant see it being stuck all the way because it will coast down a slight hill. I wish I could just get in unstuck for now so I could still use it if I needed to until I had time to work on it.