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cyl misfire and coolant in the plug well

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#1 ·
My '11 Crown vic with 270k miles suddenly started running rough mostly at the lower end of the gears. By the time you got into o/d the whole car shook. Scan tool gives me P0307 cyl 7 misfire, and P0316 misfire upon startup. So I pull the coil on 7 to find a pool of burnt smelling coolant about 2" deep. Siphoned and blew it out and removed the plug to find it's electrodes fouled with a thin coat of something shiny and black. Rubbed off without much effort. The plugs are about 4 weeks and 1500 miles old. Pulled cyl 6 coil right next to it and found a lot of white particles about half the size of rice stuck to the sides of the plug well walls. Seemed odd as I'd just blown out all the plug wells a month ago. Blew it out again and removed the plug to reveal electrodes that were coated slightly white. This plug had a ring of a black just south of the hex part. Looked like darkened sort of coagulated oil. Wiped off easily.

The car drives much better now after blowing the antifreeze out of the plug well but the miss is still there. So glad as this might buy me some time to get this figured out.

I'm not even sure how it's possible for coolant to get in a plug well. Any ideas, head gasket maybe? What's my next step in investigating?
 
#4 ·
The 4.6 is known for this, had same in my f150. When the coil on plug area fills with antifreeze the engine misfires. I always changed the coil when this happened. Mine did it 2x before 100,000 miles. The cure is a new intake gasket set or new intake depending on what year. You can try some stop leak product if its not worth repairing properly.
 
#6 ·
I would pull up youtube and see whats going on, I'm sure someone else has the same problem. This goes way back as my truck was in 05. From memory....plastic intake can crack or the gasket blows out. There are problems with the gasket under the thermostat under the intake manifold also.
 
#7 ·
Removing the intake is surprisingly easy. The plastic intake on my 1997 (this happened in 2000) 4.6 grand Marquis cracked at the water crossover pipe. This scared the crap out of me because I don't work on cars much and at the time it was the first time I had worked on something with fuel injection. After consulting a friend who knew this job well I had the intake replaced in about one hour........maybe 45 minutes. The tricky part was getting air out of the system so the coolant could flow. I found that the cross over pipe on the intake was about a half inch higher than the radiator cap. I removed a plug in the cross over pipe and displaced the air with water.......bingo, fixed.
 
#9 ·
Thanks again for helping a stranger. Found the leak at the front driver side corner of the intake manifold. Really wish it wasn't so cold out now.

Any last advice on an inexpensive source for an OEM intake mainfold? Considering how much this car is driven I better stay away from after market.
 
#10 ·
Glad you found your leak. Just gotta ask, how many total forums did you post this on? I came across it on both grizzly forums I am registered on. Then did a google search and saw it on 2 car forums. So that's 5 at least. Nothing wrong with doing so, other than all your responses being scattered.....
 
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