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What a great experience. Can't believe how easy that was. Picked up a K&N #113 oil filter from my closest auto parts store with 2 quarts of Mobil one Synthetic 10 w-30 and went to town.... Used the same gasket but have no issues so far. I was going to use a Wix 24944 but couldn't find one locally.
Think the old dog needed it. I'll do this again before the snow flies.
What a great machine.
 

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Is a 04 Foreman a 450 ?
Yes, the same one in my sig line.

Is a 04 Foreman a 450 ?
Yes, the same one in my sig line.
I been on the site a long time and still don't know what a sig line is or where it is found ----- I got a few 450s and never did call them Foreman ----- live and learn

I had people tell me , don't put synthetic in a engine that has hours on it , if you are going to use it , start when the engine is new , I put Amsoil in my 300 , it lasted 1 1/2 rides after that ----coincidence maybe
 

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Sorry, I hate being new.
But I have not found any info. regarding not using synthetic oil. I searched changing the oil several times here before changing it, especially the product and filter type with few results.
The one I own has about 600 hours which is probably too many so I'll make it a point to change the oil out asap. Do you recommend a brand of 10 w-30 for these older Honda 450's?
And the sig line is the bottom sentence that has the type of quad you have every time you post a message.
 

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Sorry, I hate being new.
But I have not found any info. regarding not using synthetic oil. I searched changing the oil several times here before changing it, especially the product and filter type with few results.
The one I own has about 600 hours which is probably too many so I'll make it a point to change the oil out asap. Do you recommend a brand of 10 w-30 for these older Honda 450's?
And the sig line is the bottom sentence that has the type of quad you have every time you post a message.
I can add to the NO syn in older used motors
its been said many many times in many many forums
and the logic behind this idea, is that older motors are worn in, and there seals and assorted parts are not up to the task of holding back the thinner slicker syn oil!
so,me have had issue's after using it, but many have not,
its one of them things, it CAN go BAD<(leaking gaskets and seals and or??) but it also maybe will work better,(run cooler, quieter, and easier starts),a personal call and gamble of sorts!

I personally just took this gamble on my skid steer, 20 yrs old and I just went to a full syn oil change 2 weeks ago,
so far tempos been running cooler, and the motor is lot quieter running, the slight ticking nose I was getting is also GONE!
is this a GOOD thing or BAD thing??
Time will tell I guess, but I have about 4 hours on it and seems to be working well for me!

BUt there is a bunch of info on this topic, weird you couldn;t find any! I been reading about it since Syn oil's came out I think LOL
 

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Ok so you guys are talking about engines in general not the Honda Foreman 450 as problematic when switching over to synthetic. I don't really beat on anything I have and I have a 4 car garage full of motorized stuff and I think 99% is either using synthetic oil from new or I switched it over and I've never had a problem with oil leaking or blowing it up.
I'm knocking on wood right now btw.
 

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I been on the site a long time and still don't know what a sig line is or where it is found ----- I got a few 450s and never did call them Foreman ----- live and learn

I had people tell me , don't put synthetic in a engine that has hours on it , if you are going to use it , start when the engine is new , I put Amsoil in my 300 , it lasted 1 1/2 rides after that ----coincidence maybe
That's probably a good thing on the signature, sounds like you've got too many machines to list out anyway :grin

I've switched plenty of older machines that had been using conventional oil over to synthetic with nothing but positive results. The risks come in if the older machine had been run with oil with poor additive package or had a lot of deposits built up, and then switching over to a synthetic with a quality additive package and it starts breaking up all the old deposits suddenly and starts clogging things. That's my understanding at least. Can happen with automatic transmissions that went way too long without atf being changed, once heavy deposits build you can cause damage by changing out with new atf which causes all the old deposits to let go at once. I have seen cases where when changed out just a couple qts at a time, the deposits dissolved out slowly and after doing that many times, the tranny got its 2nd life.
 

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I'm sure it is KN-113. Got it from advance auto who cross referenced the wix #, and said they had it but when I got to the store and couldn't find it. Found one at another store though. Don't really like K&N but it's all I could find around me.
What other filters are you guys using for the 2004 450's?
 
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