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Hey everyone,

Hello from Canada's North!!

I am new here and was hoping someone could answer a question I have. I have a honda 420FM (2008) and need to replace the display. I have it ordered and my question is..
When I replace the display will all the km's and engine hours etc get reset back to zero??

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I think the answer to that is yes. A dealer *may* be able to change it, but they would probably want you to have them replace it.
 

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I agree ^^^^ unless there is an onboard computer seperate from the dash unit it will probably start over, if it does just keep track of your old odometer and add to it as the time passes.
 

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Welcome to the forums. I agree with Pain and Moose. It'll start you back on zero. Call up your local Honda dealer and ask them if they can put your correct mileage on it and see what they say, anyway.
 

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yup..same as with a car .if you replace the instrument cluster..the dealer will have to set the new one to match the old miles.and only the dealer can do this..i done something along this line a few years back on my mom's car..her cluster went out..i went to a salvage yard..got one..only problem was..the slavaged one had less miles...lmfao..and my mom was like..well..you got to roll that up !!!..lmfao..i'm like..what ???..let me get this right..you want to roll the miles up ????????..oh man..you shoulda heard the conversation i was having with the dealer..when i called them..to ask if i could roll the odom up !!!!..you could hear them laughing thier butt off in the back ground!!!!!..guy asked...ok..i've heard of ppl rolling them back..but..your asking me if it's legal to roll them up ???!!???..lmfao..needless to say..he told me it was legal..< not that many ppl ask to roll them up mind you >..soo..after all that laughter...lol..i hung up..and rolled her odom up..to match her old one.lol.
 

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yup..same as with a car .if you replace the instrument cluster..the dealer will have to set the new one to match the old miles.and only the dealer can do this..i done something along this line a few years back on my mom's car..her cluster went out..i went to a salvage yard..got one..only problem was..the slavaged one had less miles...lmfao..and my mom was like..well..you got to roll that up !!!..lmfao..i'm like..what ???..let me get this right..you want to roll the miles up ????????..oh man..you shoulda heard the conversation i was having with the dealer..when i called them..to ask if i could roll the odom up !!!!..you could hear them laughing thier butt off in the back ground!!!!!..guy asked...ok..i've heard of ppl rolling them back..but..your asking me if it's legal to roll them up ???!!???..lmfao..needless to say..he told me it was legal..< not that many ppl ask to roll them up mind you >..soo..after all that laughter...lol..i hung up..and rolled her odom up..to match her old one.lol.
I don't think you can roll the newer ones up, can you? I'm talking about the ones that don't use the cable. I think you can if you hook the vehicle to a computer. You have to have the cable to interface with the diagnostic plug under the dash. I saw where you could buy the software on the internet, somewhere, a while back. I don't remember where, though. I would say the ATV display works the same way, but you would have to have the software and a cable to interface with it and I don't know where you would get those.
 

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if there is a manual odometer you have to advance it. However... Like my 99 cavilier it has a digital odometer. I replaced the cluster during my fix-up on it and the car it came out of had conciderably less mileage. as soon as I reconnected it to my car and powered it up my mileage appeared. but then I had to sit there for 30 min while my VATS reset. but the clusters only know what a computer tells them... your PROM in the computer retains all this information, mileage, howmany times you activated anit-lock brakes how many times you stabbed the brakes, ect ect.
 

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if there is a manual odometer you have to advance it. However... Like my 99 cavilier it has a digital odometer. I replaced the cluster during my fix-up on it and the car it came out of had conciderably less mileage. as soon as I reconnected it to my car and powered it up my mileage appeared. but then I had to sit there for 30 min while my VATS reset. but the clusters only know what a computer tells them... your PROM in the computer retains all this information, mileage, howmany times you activated anit-lock brakes how many times you stabbed the brakes, ect ect.
Yeah, the software I saw somewhere on the internet allows you to interface with the diagnostic plug just as if you were programming the PCM, but it also lets you change the mileage on the digital odometers, which I know would not be legal to do. But the software is out there.

I'm not sure about ATVs, but I bet the computer is in the display on them and I bet you have to program the display some way. I don't really have a clue about that.
 

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yup..same as with a car .if you replace the instrument cluster..the dealer will have to set the new one to match the old miles.and only the dealer can do this..i done something along this line a few years back on my mom's car..her cluster went out..i went to a salvage yard..got one..only problem was..the slavaged one had less miles...lmfao..and my mom was like..well..you got to roll that up !!!..lmfao..i'm like..what ???..let me get this right..you want to roll the miles up ????????..oh man..you shoulda heard the conversation i was having with the dealer..when i called them..to ask if i could roll the odom up !!!!..you could hear them laughing thier butt off in the back ground!!!!!..guy asked...ok..i've heard of ppl rolling them back..but..your asking me if it's legal to roll them up ???!!???..lmfao..needless to say..he told me it was legal..< not that many ppl ask to roll them up mind you >..soo..after all that laughter...lol..i hung up..and rolled her odom up..to match her old one.lol.
I don't think you can roll the newer ones up, can you? I'm talking about the ones that don't use the cable. I think you can if you hook the vehicle to a computer. You have to have the cable to interface with the diagnostic plug under the dash. I saw where you could buy the software on the internet, somewhere, a while back. I don't remember where, though. I would say the ATV display works the same way, but you would have to have the software and a cable to interface with it and I don't know where you would get those.
lol helmut..my moms car was a 96 grand am..it had the old style odm in the cluster..as far as digital displays..no..you cannot roll them up..they see what the chip see's..only way to reset those are from the dealer...and this is if you get a new cluster installed...they wont reset one from a salvage yard.
 

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yup..same as with a car .if you replace the instrument cluster..the dealer will have to set the new one to match the old miles.and only the dealer can do this..i done something along this line a few years back on my mom's car..her cluster went out..i went to a salvage yard..got one..only problem was..the slavaged one had less miles...lmfao..and my mom was like..well..you got to roll that up !!!..lmfao..i'm like..what ???..let me get this right..you want to roll the miles up ????????..oh man..you shoulda heard the conversation i was having with the dealer..when i called them..to ask if i could roll the odom up !!!!..you could hear them laughing thier butt off in the back ground!!!!!..guy asked...ok..i've heard of ppl rolling them back..but..your asking me if it's legal to roll them up ???!!???..lmfao..needless to say..he told me it was legal..< not that many ppl ask to roll them up mind you >..soo..after all that laughter...lol..i hung up..and rolled her odom up..to match her old one.lol.
I don't think you can roll the newer ones up, can you? I'm talking about the ones that don't use the cable. I think you can if you hook the vehicle to a computer. You have to have the cable to interface with the diagnostic plug under the dash. I saw where you could buy the software on the internet, somewhere, a while back. I don't remember where, though. I would say the ATV display works the same way, but you would have to have the software and a cable to interface with it and I don't know where you would get those.
lol helmut..my moms car was a 96 grand am..it had the old style odm in the cluster..as far as digital displays..no..you cannot roll them up..they see what the chip see's..only way to reset those are from the dealer...and this is if you get a new cluster installed...they wont reset one from a salvage yard.
You can change the digital ones, yourself, with the software that I saw on the internet. It just wouldn't be legal to do. All you have to have is a laptop computer, the software, and a cable to interface the laptop with the diagnostic plug under the dash. You can order the cables off the internet for about $20. This is not the same software used to do the regular programming.
 
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