Yeah, I would let off the gas when I shifted too, if I did have a ES. It just don't seem right not to.My ES shifts only rough when am hitting the throttle on and off quickly/ in other words when am playing with it rough or hard. When riding normally even when accelerating hard, I have no issues up or down but I always release the gas when shifting since that's what am use to doing. I tried shifting with the gas on but it didn't seem as good (maybe its only me). In my opinion you wouldn't drive a manual bike or car and hold the gas all the time when shifting just seems rough on the gears and stuff.
Yeah, I would think that you would have to be right about that. ES is just extra switches, sensors, and shift motors. Anything electrical will eventually go bad, no matter what it is. A foot shift is going to be a little more dependable, but only because it don't have the extra electric parts to go bad. I guess it's a trade off. If you like the operation of the ES enough to outweigh the extra problems of the electric component failure rate, then I would say go with the ES. Personally, I like them as dependable as I can get them, so I will stick with the foot shift. It's not that I wouldn't have an ES, it's just that I would rather have the foot shift. I've rode the foot shift ever since 1984 when 4-wheelers were first manufactured and it just don't seem right changing gears with my thumb.I don't think one should not let off the gas when shifting. I never have not let off the gas, since I was a kid riding auto-clutch mini-bikes....it just seems common sense that you would want to do that. At least, to me it does.
As for the problems with ES, I think the people who have problems come to post about them, and therefore you see more people posting about problems with ES instead of the ones without problems who don't come to post that they have no problems. That's the way it is on all forums.
I'm not saying there aren't problems with the ES, but I don't think the problems are so exagerated as one would think looking at the threads. Every new gagget you add will ad another possible problem, and the ES is just an electronic shifter on top of the foot shifter, so there is bound to be another layer of problems on top of it.
I'm certainly on trying to carry water for Honda, but in my opinion if there were so many problems above and beyond a 'typical failure rate' with the ES, then I think they would probably have fixed it, considering how long they've been making ES bikes.
Yeah, I'm sure you're right about that, because electronics themselves, are pretty darn dependable.BTW, Helmut, I would probably say anything 'electro-mechanical' is more likely go to bad, due to alighment problems associated with such a beast. Electronics, in general, aren't the weak link in such things. I don't think you meant that, but just thought I'd clarify