[TrevorNoah]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

 

[86Hondatrx350]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

I know that maintenance/parts is more expensive on the can-am, I have a 2018 can-am defender HD10 and it cost me $80 for a oil change kit! Told me that it’s the kit for 400cc motors to the 1000cc. They both sound like great machines though, you get what you pay for!

 

[diyer]

Honda.
No drive belt.
I personally wouldn't own a ATV with a drive belt.

 

[Riverc]

Honda.
No drive belt.
I personally wouldn't own a ATV with a drive belt.

Feel the same as this guy....When I was looking for a new bike researched them all,that belt drive just turned me away.My BIL has a Arctic Cat and seems uncomfortable riding through a lot of water worrying about that belt drive.

 

[86Hondatrx350]

Honda.
No drive belt.
I personally wouldn't own a ATV with a drive belt.

<img src="http://www.hondaatvforums.net/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />

Feel the same as this guy....When I was looking for a new bike researched them all,that belt drive just turned me away.My BIL has a Arctic Cat and seems uncomfortable riding through a lot of water worrying about that belt drive.

When going through deeper water with my side by side I always have that thought about my drive belt but with my old Honda I don’t worry about anything.

 

[wheelsquad]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

I know that maintenance/parts is more expensive on the can-am, I have a 2018 can-am defender HD10 and it cost me $80 for a oil change kit! Told me that it’s the kit for 400cc motors to the 1000cc. They both sound like great machines though, you get what you pay for!

Those kits are a rip-off. Just buy T6 or your favorite oil in gallon jug and find yourself a supertech or microgard or napa filter and you're good to go.

 

[86Hondatrx350]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

I know that maintenance/parts is more expensive on the can-am, I have a 2018 can-am defender HD10 and it cost me $80 for a oil change kit! Told me that it’s the kit for 400cc motors to the 1000cc. They both sound like great machines though, you get what you pay for!

Those kits are a rip-off. Just buy T6 or your favorite oil in gallon jug and find yourself a supertech or microgard or napa filter and you're good to go.

They were doing a promotion to get rid of there 2018 models and it came with a 5 year warranty compared to the one year. They told me to use the kits so if something happened the dealer couldn’t blame it on me for not using the correct oil.

Something is bound to break in 5 years so might aswell put as many km on it as I can on them.

 

[86Hondatrx350]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

I know that maintenance/parts is more expensive on the can-am, I have a 2018 can-am defender HD10 and it cost me $80 for a oil change kit! Told me that it’s the kit for 400cc motors to the 1000cc. They both sound like great machines though, you get what you pay for!

Those kits are a rip-off. Just buy T6 or your favorite oil in gallon jug and find yourself a supertech or microgard or napa filter and you're good to go.

Will be using rotella T6 and some aftermarket filter once the warranty ends

 

[machinecrook]

Keeping it for a lifetime? Honda.

 

[wheelsquad]

Will be using rotella T6 and some aftermarket filter once the warranty ends

That's certainly something you can do if you want the warm and fuzzies about your warranty. But by law no manufacturer can require you to use a specific brand oil and filter. Look up the Ma As long as what you use meets the industry standards specified in the manual, save your receipts, you are good to go. They can only require you to run their brand of maintenance supplies if they provide them to you free of charge. FYI I'm a Rotella T6 user as well, and used it when my Yamaha was still under warranty. Since AMSOIL gets this question a lot they went to some things to explain it better than I can.

https://www.amsoil.com/newsstand/articles/feel-secure-using-amsoil-synthetic/
https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2488.pdf?zo=1721168
https://www.amsoil.com/about/guarantee.aspx/

 

[shadetree]

honda all the way, no other atv fits. if it were me ? I would look into a manual shift, no belt drive !, trx450fm or trx500fm ( on the trx500fm, make sure that 1st gear and oil drain bolt is not bad ! ). best advice: any atv that is manual shift is a great choice. personally ?, I loveeeeeeeee my '03 trx450fm !.

 

[mac102004]

If you want something that will last you a lifetime you should stick with the Honda, and probably a footshift rather than a DCT. Nothing against the Can-am’s but I really don’t think the pro’s start outweighing the cons on those machines until you get up to the 850/1000cc models.

Another good option if you can find one in your price range would be a Yamaha Grizzly or Kodiak, great bikes and as reliable as any Honda.


I find it quite amusing how people on this forum are scared to death of a simple belt drive, yet a electronically controlled Hondamatic or DCT are perfectly fine. Honda has the most complex and expensive to repair automatic transmissions in the ATV industry, if your looking for a ATV transmission you should be scared of, look no further.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[ATC4ever]

All good advice on here, only thing i would ad is like Mac said about the Yamaha. I was looking at the 450 just yesterday at the dealer while there for tires. Doesnt look too bad, & I think someone on here, in the past recent months bought one.

 

[wheelsquad]

If you want something that will last you a lifetime you should stick with the Honda, and probably a footshift rather than a DCT. Nothing against the Can-am’s but I really don’t think the pro’s start outweighing the cons on those machines until you get up to the 850/1000cc models.

Another good option if you can find one in your price range would be a Yamaha Grizzly or Kodiak, great bikes and as reliable as any Honda.


I find it quite amusing how people on this forum are scared to death of a simple belt drive, yet a electronically controlled Hondamatic or DCT are perfectly fine. Honda has the most complex and expensive to repair automatic transmissions in the ATV industry, if your looking for a ATV transmission you should be scared of, look no further.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pretty much sums up my thoughts right there. The belt drives that Polaris and Canam use where the belt is also the clutch, is something I never care own. But the belt drives that use a separate centrifugal clutch (i.e. Yamaha, Suzuki) are in a completely different league. I love my Yamaha belt drive. The centrifugal clutch portion is nearly identical to what is in a Honda footshift that is so highly regarded on this forum. And since the belt portion of the cvt itself can then be in constant tension, you get a super reliable belt drive.

Back to the thread starters original post, if you want to own an atv for the remainder of its life, and around the 500cc or under.... Get a Honda footshift, or a Yamaha Grizzly or Kodiak. Heck even a Honda ES can be a great option, fewer electronics to go wrong than compared to the DCT. And just follow the preventative maintenance described here: https://www.hondaatvforums.net/foru...y/117193-creamsicle-orange-5.html#post1151201

Have fun shopping!

 

[creed82]

I say if you require impressive power and speed, you will be disappointed with the Honda. They are fun, but not impressively powerful or fast. They ARE impressively quality and reliable. So if you require that impressive power/speed, you have to go Can Am.

 

[2016rancher]

Honda.
No drive belt.
I personally wouldn't own a ATV with a drive belt.

Feel the same as this guy....When I was looking for a new bike researched them all,that belt drive just turned me away.My BIL has a Arctic Cat and seems uncomfortable riding through a lot of water worrying about that belt drive.

I also agree

 

[TrevorNoah]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda uc browser shareit appvn Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

my issue has been solved!!

 

[TRXStudent]

Hey everyone. I am having a difficult time deciding between two atvs. The first option is a 2017 Can-Am Outlander 450 4x4 it has 108 hours on it and I can get it for 3500 maybe a little less. It looks brand new the other option is a 2016 Honda uc browser shareit appvn Rancher TRX 4x4 with DTC IRS. It has low hours but I am not confident on the exact amount. They are asking 4500. I will most likely be keeping whichever ATV I get for its lifetime. I live on some property and it would be used for daily chores and occasional trail riding. I am open to suggestions on other models but I really feel more comfortable under 4k right now. I want something that will stay running if I maintain it properly. My 98 Kawasaki Bayou 300 is still going but I am having to really baby it. Any input would be great! Thanks.

my issue has been solved!!

What did you settle with? I mean, I hope I'm not surprised.....

 

[Goober]

I have 3 Yamaha 350-400, a Suzuki 400AS and a TRX350FE in my work fleet. The rest are all Honda manual shifts.

The Suzy is the favorite. I always put newbies on it and the Yammies because these four have a simple gear select pattern.

Only one guy drives the FE, although it’s a splendid well-cared for machine. Lol he likes complicated machinery too!

 

[Goober]

The belt drives that Polaris and Canam use where the belt is also the clutch, is something I never care own. But the belt drives that use a separate centrifugal clutch (i.e. Yamaha, Suzuki) are in a completely different league. I love my Yamaha belt drive. The centrifugal clutch portion is nearly identical to what is in a Honda footshift that is so highly regarded on this forum. And since the belt portion of the cvt itself can then be in constant tension, you get a super reliable belt drive.

Back to the thread starters original post, if you want to own an atv for the remainder of its life, and around the 500cc or under.... Get a Honda footshift, or a Yamaha Grizzly or Kodiak. Heck even a Honda ES can be a great option, fewer electronics to go wrong than compared to the DCT. And just follow the preventative maintenance described here: https://www.hondaatvforums.net/foru...y/117193-creamsicle-orange-5.html#post1151201

Have fun shopping!

Great Info Wheelsquad!