[Duke D]

Hello, new here. I have a 2008 420 rancher. So a few weeks back it started randomly not starting. Thinking hey, it's the original batt, let's check it. It's good. Anyway, faulty starter. Replace, now, turn the key, and it sounds like a small arc, then all power is lost. I'm trying to get the start solenoid out to check it but the connector is a pain, can't get my hands in far enough to find it. So before I finish that task, does any one have a thought on the short out issue? Not to get much longer, I have isolated the new starter to be sure I didn't get a bad one. Thanks all.

 

[XJCountry]

Have you tried to pull start it? I would try to jump it. If it will start with a jump then you now what the problem is.

 

[Duke D]

If it has a pull starter, I can't find it.... Lol. I'm worried about cooking the ecm when short occurs and lose all power. No fuses have popped either. Thanks

 

[Duke D]

Update on the solenoid part, connector wasn't too difficult, the lead was just pinched under the boot making it look as if it went under the plastic. Anyway, the resistance in the primary side jumps to 12 or so ohms then eventually settle at 4 ish. I understand it's a coil, but doesn't hat sound Normal? Thanks again.

 

[mrbb]

when you said battery is GOOD< what did you do to confirm this?
stick a volt meter on it?
as if so, that doesn't mean battery is GOOD< you need to test it under a load!

how old is the fuel, if its OLD fuel that alone can be a issue here
have you checked spark at the plug?
is it string?

how does plug look?

as again if battery really SIN"T good, , your sort of spinning your wheels till you rule it out for sure?

ALL chain auto parts stores in the USA will test battery for FREE too , in case you didn;t know this!

 

[retro]

See if the info I typed earlier in another thread doesn't solve your problem:

https://www.hondaatvforums.net/foru...-ignition-issues-trx-foreman.html#post1233562

 

[Duke D]

Well, it looks like my digital load tester may be faulty. Dug out the old toaster and it appears I just need to charge the battery... So far. Thanks for the help. I'll get back if it is this simple. On my bad starter, has anyone seen most of the magnets broken? Bearings are fine so that seems interesting to me.

 

[XJCountry]

If you get a small piece of something in the starter it can wreck it pretty quick. Also if the glue holding the magnets degrades (due to heat or temperature extremes) a magnet can come loose and break everything. If you do sweet jumps, the shock of a hard landing could dislodge or break a magnet...maybe?

 

[Duke D]

Sweet jumps... That's awesome!! Anyhow, not a battery issue. I look at the schematic and don't see any fusible links, are there any? Still turn key display may or may not light up, if it does, start button shuts all down for unknown time. I did get it running for a few mins earlier. Fecided replace battery, same problem.

 

[Duke D]

Grrrr. Doing this on my phone... Makes my grammar look horrible. Sorry

 

[retro]

Check my post above... you have dirty/corroded connections more than likely.

 

[Duke D]

Yup, seems like a loose connection somewhere near the jbox above the ecm. Or in the evening. Does it turn into a disaster if that jbox I'd opened up? Thanks again all.

 

[Duke D]

Evening .... Stupid fingers... Ecm