[Bushpilot]

Hi,

New to the forum. Recently read how to remove the starter on my 86 Four Trax, which I did. I removed the cover and gear next to the starter gear to allow for room to wiggle starter out. However, in the process, I removed the gear to the left with a shaft about 4 in long and 7/16 diam...which I should not have.

Now I am trying to put it back in place, but I have a washer about 1 in outer diameter that slipped out from shaft and I can"t figure where it fits! HELP!

 

[shadetree]

Hi,

New to the forum. Recently read how to remove the starter on my 86 Four Trax, which I did. I removed the cover and gear next to the starter gear to allow for room to wiggle starter out. However, in the process, I removed the gear to the left with a shaft about 4 in long and 7/16 diam...which I should not have.

Now I am trying to put it back in place, but I have a washer about 1 in outer diameter that slipped out from shaft and I can"t figure where it fits! HELP!

that washer goes on the very outside of the long shaft after you put the gear on it..then the middle gear roller pin..then the starter..then put the middle gear on..and welcome to the forums.

 

[mud99]

Welcome to the forums.

 

[Bushpilot]

washer: Remove starter

Thanks! Now let's hope I don't drop anything inside the engine on the way home...

 

[Helmut]

Welcome to the forums.

 

[Bushpilot]

'86 FourTrax starter issue

Ok, all you nice boys and girls. With your help, I was able to remove and re-install my starter, after cleaning it and replacing the brushes. It works, but if the monster doesn't start on the first crank, then the starter seems to disengage, turn freely, while I hear this gawd awful noise from the engine like all the gears are coming apart! Real scary.

What do I do, other than take it into my friendly, expensive Honda repair shop?::frown:

 

[Helmut]

Ok, all you nice boys and girls. With your help, I was able to remove and re-install my starter, after cleaning it and replacing the brushes. It works, but if the monster doesn't start on the first crank, then the starter seems to disengage, turn freely, while I hear this gawd awful noise from the engine like all the gears are coming apart! Real scary.

What do I do, other than take it into my friendly, expensive Honda repair shop?::frown:

If the starter is turning, but the engine doesn't, your one-way starter bearing is probably bad. I don't know about the noise you hear coming from the engine, though. Usually, you only hear the sound of the starter motor when the one-way bearing goes bad.

 

[Pain]

That happened to my 86. It would catch one out of 3 times, and the other 2 times it sounded like there was a hand full of loose bolts in the engine.

I took it to the shop.

 

[shadetree]

if it's making the noise i know of..that is your one way bearing on the starter side making that sound..it's the bearings in it thats doing that..it does sound like a bunch of bolts being thrown around inside your motor..they do that..replace your one-way bearing on the starter side..you will need to remove the flywheel in order to do this..once you get the flywheel bolt out..and the flywheel off the crank..there is the starter transfer gear that rides in the backside of the flywheel..in the center of the flywheel is your one-way bearing..this is what makes that awful sound if the bearings are bad..or the starter transfer gear is worn..could be both ???..look at the round part on the starter transfer gear..is it eat up pretty bad ??..or is it smooth ?..if it's really eat up..pitted so to speak..you will need to replace it. as for your bearing..you may as well replace it..i'm sure it's bad.

 

[Bushpilot]

Four Trak starter issue

Thanks to all for your input.

I think I will take it to the shop. I am usually pretty good at taking things apart. Problem is putting them back together..

 

[Pain]

If this is a trx350, be aware that some of the parts will not be available. When I took mine in, they couldn't get all the parts needed to replace everything, so they asked me if I wanted to reuse some of the old parts, or just have them put it all back together without repair. Of course I chose to have it repaired as best they could, and it worked fine....until I sold it

 

[Helmut]

Even if it's a Fourtrax 250, some of the parts may be discontinued.