Yes, they will overshoot the shift right away and bind up the spindle shaft if they are installed out of time. Nothing will work until removed and corrected. Cleanliness, proper lubrication & good watertight seals are very important... always perform your best when working on ES bikes or they'll leave you stranded and cost you a fortune to fix each time. This is one area where preventive maintenance and dotting your I's and crossing your T's, really pays off with huge rewards!Thanks! that's the closest answer we have gotten. I will try that. They are definitely a pain, but nice when working correctly. Could it being out of time cause it to throw the angle sensor all out of wack?
Never install a china knockoff part either, buy OEM only or you'll be rebuilding the entire thing. OEM parts are the cheapest way out... fail to acknowledge that and you'll be paying triple for that mistake the next day.
Let us know how it goes... and enjoy your work.