Its not the battery, I have cleaned all the grounds and all the post. Is there a way to test the rectifier/reg? If it was going out wouldnt it under charge / over charge the battery? I am still tracing. I can jump across the terminals on solenoid and I still dont get power to to the plug. Does the neutral or reverse control the cdi telling it when it is ok to start? I know I can start mine in gear but I have a aftermarket cdi? I guess I dont understand what the stater does, is it like a alternator? Thanks for the help