Agreed^^. I own a '07 Rincon and my dad has an '09 Rancher AT, that we bought within a few days of each other. The Rancher just feels heavier compared to my Rincon. In my, and my fathers opinion the Rincon is a better ATV. But, this is a Rancher thread, and the Rancher AT is a sweet machine. When in auto, it shift very smooth. When you are in ESP, it sounds kind of loud when you use the buttons. Brakes are awesome. The rear brake is disk (on the rear drive shaft like the Rincon) unlike the axled Ranchers drum brake. The IRS is also a mini-version of the Rincon, but a little too stiff in my opinion. The engine, seems a tad under powered to me, especially being a 420. When I compare it to my uncles 350 Rancher it just seems like there should be more power. In most cases though, the Rancher handles great and powers through just fine with no problems. I like the plastic too, one piece fenders. I wish my Rincons plastic was like that, I'm not a big fan of the flimsy fender flares it comes with. The Ranchers seat needs to be a little softer too.