[localhero800]

ok, so i bought this bike from family, he siad that it ran summer of 2008... but that it had sat, so prob needed carb cleaned...

i bought it cheap, and brought it home, cleaned the carb , it had its hickups and little problems, but it now runs good and im happy with the motor... now the problem....

it has electric start, but i cnat get it to even try to start... the battery was bought in spring of 2008 , but hasnt been charged since then... i checked , and while it is at idle, it is making about 10 volts, at the battery terminals... is this correct?? im assuming the battery is gone, but im not gonna fork out 50 bucks for one if it isnt just the battery... it can pull start... but the lights dont work unless its running, and stuff., so i assume its the battery....


any ideas, or help to tell me if its just the battery??? can i try to jump it off my truck???

 

[TRX2fiveO]

Welcome to the forums.... the lights wont work on some of the older models unless it's running since the lights are ran by a pulse generator, the reason you have 10 volts is the regulator is trying to charge a dead battery, I would suggest taking the battery off check to be sure it is full in each cell if not top it off with distilled water and put slow trickle charge on it for a few hours, overnight is best then check the voltage. If the voltage is good re-install it and try it. put a multi-meter on the battery while you crank it or try to and see what voltage you have, you may be looking at replacing the battery since it has sat for over a year. good luck and keep us posted

 

[localhero800]

ok, that makes since on the lights... i topped off the battery, and put in on a trickle charge, and it started to boil over.... so does that mean the batt. is shot???

 

[mud99]

You could have over filed it. When charging your battery be sure to unplug the charger when connecting the post. A spark can cause a battery explosion.

 

[localhero800]

ok, well i put it on the automatic charger again.. and it says its "low" which is the trickle setting... so hopefully.. it will work.. i tried the starter button when its running, and the starter turns over...

 

[TRX2fiveO]

leave the caps off when you charge it..so it can vent better

 

[localhero800]

i will pull them off now... if it has sat over the winter, will it be ruined???

 

[mud99]

There is a chance it could steal be good.

 

[localhero800]

ok, well its still on charge, ill take it off about 2 or so, i guess... that will be 4 hours... or longer the better???

 

[localhero800]

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so i started it( pull rope) and was checking the voltage at the battery( still 10v) and if i hit the starter button while it is running, i can hear the starter turn... any ideas?? if the motor is off, no starter turn.. it has no key, the red and black wire, are together, as per manual to be "on", and black/white and green , are un hooked...if i press breen, and b/w it shuts off , like its supposed to... any ideas???

 

[mud99]

check the battery voltage with the machine off battery may be bad.

 

[localhero800]

ok, could i hook up a car battery to check to see if the starter works...???

 

[TRX2fiveO]

black/white is ignition green is ground.. so you are saying the key switch is completely missing? do you have a wiring diagram? if so can you post a picture of it? I can help you figure it out better that way. min is a little different I do not have a starter so my key switch is black/white and green. you can try hooking them two together and see what happens?? but I would just touch them first. no arc then your good the rd and black lead to the solenoid I'm sure so you need to complete the circuit in order for it to start.

 

[TRX2fiveO]

No... I wouldnt... too many cranking amps.

ok, could i hook up a car battery to check to see if the starter works...???

 

[localhero800]

ok, i got it figured out... the fuse wasnt any good... so i replaced it, and the silanoid wasnt clicking, so i bought a 10.00 one for a mower, and it works.... starter kicks over and starts the bike!!! so now i have a question... if the headlights and stuff were comming on before, that meant the alternator was working right, so it should charge the battery up... correct...

 

[TRX2fiveO]

yes it should as long as there isn't a bad cell. a hydrometer will tell you that though but the battery needs a full charge on it in order to get an acurate reading.

 

[Matt1280]

There's also another way you can test the battery to see if it's charging. When it's running at an idle. Take a multimeter put it on DC power. put the test on the postive and negative post. Press of the accelarator. The voltage should go up. Usually batteries should be at about a 12 volt. If it's not when you go to start the bike it's going to kill the battery quick because batteries take 12 volts to start them. Or you could even go get a battery tester. There about 20 bucks, hook it up to your battery, put a load on it and the meter should tell you weather or not it's a good battery, bad, and charging.

Good luck

 

[localhero800]

ok, well the voltage goes up when i accelerate, but its at pretty high rps when it hits 13 volts..., but i guess its charging..... now my problem is that someone slashed a hole in the tire... so now i need to find a carlisle 22x11-8 tire... its the stock one, if anyone knows where i could find a used one cheap....

 

[mud99]

You may try craigs list or ebay if no one hear has one.

 

[localhero800]

yeah, i have been checking on craigslist, and ebay doesnt have any used ones, and new is wayyyy to expencive right after christmas... ill keep my eyes out...