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I am new to the forums, but I just found this thread and it was mentioned that there were adapters but I can't find them. Can anyone post a link to the adapter's that go from 4/130 to 4/110? Bought a set of Honda recon rims lastnight and the front won't fit.



I also saw on another forum board that the front could be 4/144. I called Honda and they can't even give me a straight answer to this question.

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I am new to the forums, but I just found this thread and it was mentioned that there were adapters but I can't find them. Can anyone post a link to the adapter's that go from 4/130 to 4/110? Bought a set of Honda recon rims lastnight and the front won't fit.



I also saw on another forum board that the front could be 4/144. I called Honda and they can't even give me a straight answer to this question.

Thanks,
What are you putting the wheels on? I found the adapters on eBay for a vw or something for like 60 bucks shipped. They wound up not working because my wheel studs are too short. I could have probably just gotten longer studs, but I bought some 86 drums that should have the correct 110 pattern (hopefully)

Those vw porsche adapters looked basically like atv ones. So they will work with the correct studs. Pm me if you want to buy them before I return them tomorrow

You can easily measure and determine the bolt pattern yourself. Just measure diagonally across from center to center. There is a pic posted on page one showing how.
 

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All bad lately...

So nothing is going my way lately. I go to tighten up the rear wheels I bought. It is the correct 4/110 bolt pattern, but there is a lip on the hub that will not allow the wheel to sit flush. I can't leave it because I know it will loosen up with vibration and it is going to eat up studs. So upon further research, it seems that the rear hubs were also changed in 86 to a more forgiving "flat" design.

I am half tempted to take a grinder to these and grind the ring just inside of the studs flat, but I am not sure that will work. Thoughts?

Here is a pic of my hub, notice the raised ring inside the studs. This is hitting the back of the wheel keeping it from sitting flush.
 

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I have a 1985 TRX250 that has a nasty rake on it, I bought a set of 2006 Recon rims for $100 with tires and was hoping to switch out to those to make it sit more like a regular ATV.
 

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My buddy has an 85 250 that he was parting out and he sold the front tires to a guy with an 86 250. The guy came back and the wheels from his 86 had a different bolt pattern than the 85's. Another guy came for the axle to put in an 86 and the 85 axle was 2 inches shorter than his 86 axle. They must have done some changes between the years?
 

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As far as the fronts are concerned, I got the first of my two eBay 1986 drums today and the bolt pattern is 110. Based on my experience as well as the info here, I am going to confirm that the 85 had 4/130 bolt pattern for the front and changed to 4/110 for 1986. Hopefully this will help someone before they go down the road I have taken to get here.

I did not get a chance to fit them, hopefully there are no other surprises awaiting me.
 

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I have a 1985 TRX250 that has a nasty rake on it, I bought a set of 2006 Recon rims for $100 with tires and was hoping to switch out to those to make it sit more like a regular ATV.
I would suggest doing what I did and get some eBay drums off an 86 or 87. That to me seems to be the path of least resistance. Hopefully there are no more surprises once I go to put the on. Be careful, some of the 85 drums on eBay are listed as 86-87 and they are not. There are some physical differences on the front that make it easy to tell once you know what to look for.
 

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My buddy has an 85 250 that he was parting out and he sold the front tires to a guy with an 86 250. The guy came back and the wheels from his 86 had a different bolt pattern than the 85's. Another guy came for the axle to put in an 86 and the 85 axle was 2 inches shorter than his 86 axle. They must have done some changes between the years?
Good info mudlover. Thanks.
 

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I took a tire off last night and I called the main Honda dealer out west. The Honda dealer can't tell me the bolt patter to any of their wheels because the spec list they have doesn't tell that information, but I did measure for myself and it is a 4/130 bolt pattern on the front. I have researched this for almost a week and the '85 TRX250 is the only model that had the 4/130 that year which is why the next year they switched back to the 4/110. Not saying I am perfectly right on my answer but from what I have researched that does go along with it.

If I keep it I will probably buy new hubs for the front to allow me to switch wheels. Let me know how the hubs switch out BlackOut.
 

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I have a stock 1986 and a stock 1985 and the bolt pattern on the 1985 is different. The 1986 is the same as all other Honda's. I think they did change sizes. The rear axle is also shorter.
 

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Updates for anyone after me that may have the same issues...

The front brake drums are different between 85 and 86. Bolt pattern is different as well as design. The 86 drum is deeper than the 85. The 85 also has a "double lip"

Here is a pic of the 85 front drum showing the "double lip"
 

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Front brake backing plates are different too. The 85 backing plate has a double lip for the double lip on the 85 drum to slide into. I could fit the 86 drum on the 85 backing plate, but when I tightened the axle nut, it caused it to bind up and the wheel would not rotate.

I did not take any measurements, but eyeballing it, the backing plates look the same other than the extra inner lip at the edge of the 85. I may try to grind it off and see if it works since I only had one 86 backing plate.

Pic of the double lip on the 85 backing plate attached. The 86 drum is too thick and binds between the two lips when torqued down.
 

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