08 Honda 420 es making noise in neutral

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HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · Feb 28, 2019

I just got my 2008 Honda 420 es and in neutral it is making a grinding, rattling noise that increases in volume with increased RPM. Runs and drives great and shifts fine which makes me believe that the transmission and Top end of the motor must be functioning properly. If anyone has any ideas of what it may be or if you have had a similar problem please help me out. Thanks :grin:grin

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GirlsRideToo

· #21 · Mar 3, 2019

Read my last post again, please. I think you read it while I was editing the original post. LOL

shadetree

· #22 · Mar 3, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
Checked my valve clearances today and they were very loose, used your method and adjusted them. Just got this atv and dont know the history so hoping to valve adjustment will help. Starting it up tomorrow and will let you know how it goes. If it's no better will be checking out the clutch side of the motor. Thanks for the help guys:grin

please keep us posted !!!.

HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #23 · Mar 3, 2019

So adjusted my valves and noise is about the same so time to start taking the clutch side apart!!! Oil change on Display is off now. Lol have to drain it again

shadetree

· #24 · Mar 3, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
So adjusted my valves and noise is about the same so time to start taking the clutch side apart!!! Oil change on Display is off now. Lol have to drain it again

with it being an '08 ?, chances are,,,the cam chain is on its way out...lol. least your cam chain is only about 30 bucks ?, cam chain for a '99 is 145.00 retail..lol. ( no I did not pay that price ).

shadetree

· #25 · Mar 3, 2019

when you order a new cam chain, don't forget to get a front clutch cover gasket !.

HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #26 · Mar 3, 2019

Yes, it has about 6000km and I'm sure the cam chain has never been touched, might be time for a top end too. Can you buy a clutch cover gasket or do you just use Honda bond? Thanks

shadetree

· #27 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
Yes, it has about 6000km and I'm sure the cam chain has never been touched, might be time for a top end too. Can you buy a clutch cover gasket or do you just use Honda bond? Thanks

you need a clutch cover gasket, please do not use hondabond or yamabond on the front clutch cover !

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HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #28 · Mar 4, 2019

Looked at the manual and it said to use a gasket maker, sealant. Also looked at a parts diagram and dont see a gasket available so is it just gasket maker then? Thanks

shadetree

· #29 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
Looked at the manual and it said to use a gasket maker, sealant. Also looked at a parts diagram and dont see a gasket available so is it just gasket maker then? Thanks

fair enough, if no gasket is there to start with ?, then yes, you can use yamabond or hondabond. if there is a gasket anywhere ?, then replace with gasket.

HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #30 · Mar 4, 2019

Looks like there is no gasket but I'm sure this things been pulled apart before. Lol about to pull the clutch cover off so hopefully I see a stretched timing chain!!! :grin

shadetree

· #31 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
Looks like there is no gasket but I'm sure this things been pulled apart before. Lol about to pull the clutch cover off so hopefully I see a stretched timing chain!!! :grin

i'm sure you will !..lol.

HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #32 · Mar 4, 2019

shadetree said:
HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:

Looks like there is no gasket but I'm sure this things been pulled apart before. Lol about to pull the clutch cover off so hopefully I see a stretched timing chain!!! :grin

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i'm sure you will !..lol.

Looks like I found the problem, but is the tensioner also bad? I included a video and it looks like it is moving it and out a little. It is just because it is maxed out? Here's a video. Thanks alot

shadetree

· #33 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
shadetree said:

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:

Looks like there is no gasket but I'm sure this things been pulled apart before. Lol about to pull the clutch cover off so hopefully I see a stretched timing chain!!! :grin

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i'm sure you will !..lol.

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Looks like I found the problem, but is the tensioner also bad? I included a video and it looks like it is moving it and out a little. It is just because it is maxed out? Here's a video. Thanks alot

yep..chain is shot, and tensioner is not looking good either, replace both of them. oh, please dont crank it over like your doing without oil in the engine !..lol.

HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #34 · Mar 4, 2019

shadetree said:
HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:

shadetree said:

i'm sure you will !..lol.

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Looks like I found the problem, but is the tensioner also bad? I included a video and it looks like it is moving it and out a little. It is just because it is maxed out? Here's a video. Thanks alot

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yep..chain is shot, and tensioner is not looking good either, replace both of them. oh, please dont crank it over like your doing without oil in the engine !..lol.

Alright looks like I will be buying a OEM tensioner and chain then. So you think that's what's causing the ticking it sure seems like it and I know not to turn it over without oil but just got too excited that I found the problem. Lol

shadetree

· #35 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
shadetree said:

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:

Looks like I found the problem, but is the tensioner also bad? I included a video and it looks like it is moving it and out a little. It is just because it is maxed out? Here's a video. Thanks alot

https://youtu.be/qTEikFD2zkc

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yep..chain is shot, and tensioner is not looking good either, replace both of them. oh, please dont crank it over like your doing without oil in the engine !..lol.

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Alright looks like I will be buying a OEM tensioner and chain then. So you think that's what's causing the ticking it sure seems like it and I know not to turn it over without oil but just got too excited that I found the problem. Lol

unless your valves are not adjusted right ?, then a new cam chain, and chain tensioner will solve your problem

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shadetree

· #36 · Mar 4, 2019

matter of fact, after you install the new chain, and tensioner , go back and re-adjust the valves

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HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #37 · Mar 4, 2019

shadetree said:
matter of fact, after you install the new chain, and tensioner , go back and re-adjust the valves .

Oh, I adjusted those valves perfectly. But will for sure check them again after.Lol, looks like I need a clutch puller too and some Honda bond. Is that it or do you recommend anything else well I have it apart. Will obviously check all the clutch disk clearances as well. Thanks :grin:grin

shadetree

· #38 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
shadetree said:

matter of fact, after you install the new chain, and tensioner , go back and re-adjust the valves .

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Oh, I adjusted those valves perfectly. But will for sure check them again after.Lol, looks like I need a clutch puller too and some Honda bond. Is that it or do you recommend anything else well I have it apart. Will obviously check all the clutch disk clearances as well. Thanks :grin:grin

check the friction disk, clutch arms, replace if needed ?, yamabond/hondabond, clutch puller tool. cam chain, chain tensioner, air impact gun to zip the nuts off, 1/2 drive,27mm deep well impact socket to fit the clutch nuts. this should be all you need

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HONDA420RIDER4X4

Discussion Starter · #39 · Mar 4, 2019

Ok great ordering the parts now so will be updating you guys when they come in, and are installed in about 2 weeks!!!:grin:grin:|:grin

shadetree

· #40 · Mar 4, 2019

HONDA420RIDER4X4 said:
Ok great ordering the parts now so will be updating you guys when they come in, and are installed in about 2 weeks!!!:grin:grin:|:grin

good deal, yes..please keep this thread updated for future owners !

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