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Will my Rancher ES 350 turn these tires okay?

By that I mean in the mud. I haven't stuck it anything deep just yet.

It came with Maxxis Zilla tires; 26-11-14. The rims are ITP. I'm unsure exactly what ones, but I believe they're 14". I couldn't find the size on them anywhere.


It does have a HMF exhaust on it. I weigh around 200 lbs. I don't know how much that matters.


I've seen where some of the other guys said theirs turn 26" tires fine, but they were talking about smaller variations, like 26-9-12.
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my opinion, answer is NO, I would NOT be happy
but this is always a personal deal, some are OK with a lot of power loss and some are not

MY question is always, do you feel your honda atv has too much HP NOW?? and if so, how much would you be willing to loose and still be happy??
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my opinion, answer is NO, I would NOT be happy
but this is always a personal deal, some are OK with a lot of power loss and some are not

MY question is always, do you feel your honda atv has too much HP NOW?? and if so, how much would you be willing to loose and still be happy??
To be honest, I don't know. I've never rode a rancher with stock tires and rims, so I have no idea in what the differences would feel like.
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I have 26's on my kid's 350. I certainly wouldn't go bigger than that. Zillas are light so I don't think a 26" Zilla will be too bad.

As mrbb said, depends on your riding conditions and what you expect from your wheeler. If you do a lot of riding in thick clay (gumbo) you might want to stick to a 25. If you ride like most do (mostly trails, with occasional mud hole) then you'll be fine with those light 26's.
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I have 26's on my kid's 350. I certainly wouldn't go bigger than that. Zillas are light so I don't think a 26" Zilla will be too bad.

As mrbb said, depends on your riding conditions and what you expect from your wheeler. If you do a lot of riding in thick clay (gumbo) you might want to stick to a 25. If you ride like most do (mostly trails, with occasional mud hole) then you'll be fine with those light 26's.
I'm mostly concerned because the former owner stuck 14" rims, and 26-11-14 Zillas on it. I don't how much of a difference there is going to be between 12" rims, and 14" 26 tires. I don't know why he wouldn't just stick to a standard 26, instead of a larger 14" 26.

Do you have the 26 12", or the 14" one?
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my opinion, answer is NO, I would NOT be happy
but this is always a personal deal, some are OK with a lot of power loss and some are not

MY question is always, do you feel your honda atv has too much HP NOW?? and if so, how much would you be willing to loose and still be happy??
To be honest, I don't know. I've never rode a rancher with stock tires and rims, so I have no idea in what the differences would feel like.
OK have you ever rode a rancher that felt like it had too much HP??
and what sized tires were on them you rode, maybe use that as en example ??



I'm mostly concerned because the former owner stuck 14" rims, and 26-11-14 Zillas on it. I don't how much of a difference there is going to be between 12" rims, and 14" 26 tires. I don't know why he wouldn't just stick to a standard 26, instead of a larger 14" 26.

Do you have the 26 12", or the 14" one?


odds are the previous owner did so, as they liked the LOOKS of the larger wheel, I doubt there is much difference in weight of wheels/tires, but if you know name of wheel and tire, most companys list weights and you can fin d them from there and compare!
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I have no use for big wheels on anything unless it's required to clear larger brakes.

14" wheels should make the tire/wheel package lighter if anything. Less rubber sidewall should make for lighter tires. You gain "looks" (which is all in the eyes of the beholder) and give up sidewall flex, the ability to air down for a wider footprint/ more traction, and increase your risk of damaging a rim.

I've never cared for low profile tires and big rims. I'm not riding my ATV to the projects/ trailer park to sell crack meth, so I don't need it to look like a ghetto sled.

I did look at possibly getting 14's for a 300 build because so many of the larger tire sizes now are only available for 14" wheels, but I couldn't find an 14" wheels that didn't look stupidly blingish so I never could bring myself to get any.

Luckily I found some OG 29.5 outlaws for 12" wheels so I can run stock Rubicon wheels.

To OP, I'd run what you have. Zillas are good tires, they're light, and you already have them.
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my opinion, answer is NO, I would NOT be happy
but this is always a personal deal, some are OK with a lot of power loss and some are not

MY question is always, do you feel your honda atv has too much HP NOW?? and if so, how much would you be willing to loose and still be happy??
To be honest, I don't know. I've never rode a rancher with stock tires and rims, so I have no idea in what the differences would feel like.
OK have you ever rode a rancher that felt like it had too much HP??
and what sized tires were on them you rode, maybe use that as en example ??



I'm mostly concerned because the former owner stuck 14" rims, and 26-11-14 Zillas on it. I don't how much of a difference there is going to be between 12" rims, and 14" 26 tires. I don't know why he wouldn't just stick to a standard 26, instead of a larger 14" 26.

Do you have the 26 12", or the 14" one?


odds are the previous owner did so, as they liked the LOOKS of the larger wheel, I doubt there is much difference in weight of wheels/tires, but if you know name of wheel and tire, most companys list weights and you can fin d them from there and compare!
Unfortunately, this is literally my first rancher. Formerly I had a Warrior. My bother has a brute force, which is vastly a different comparison to make. Haha. I think a Wolverine would be the nearest thing I've rode to a rancher, or either a 250 recon.

It doesn't feel it has excessive HP, though.
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my opinion, answer is NO, I would NOT be happy
but this is always a personal deal, some are OK with a lot of power loss and some are not

MY question is always, do you feel your honda atv has too much HP NOW?? and if so, how much would you be willing to loose and still be happy??
To be honest, I don't know. I've never rode a rancher with stock tires and rims, so I have no idea in what the differences would feel like.
OK have you ever rode a rancher that felt like it had too much HP??
and what sized tires were on them you rode, maybe use that as en example ??



I'm mostly concerned because the former owner stuck 14" rims, and 26-11-14 Zillas on it. I don't how much of a difference there is going to be between 12" rims, and 14" 26 tires. I don't know why he wouldn't just stick to a standard 26, instead of a larger 14" 26.

Do you have the 26 12", or the 14" one?


odds are the previous owner did so, as they liked the LOOKS of the larger wheel, I doubt there is much difference in weight of wheels/tires, but if you know name of wheel and tire, most companys list weights and you can fin d them from there and compare!
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I have no use for big wheels on anything unless it's required to clear larger brakes.

14" wheels should make the tire/wheel package lighter if anything. Less rubber sidewall should make for lighter tires. You gain "looks" (which is all in the eyes of the beholder) and give up sidewall flex, the ability to air down for a wider footprint/ more traction, and increase your risk of damaging a rim.

I've never cared for low profile tires and big rims. I'm not riding my ATV to the projects/ trailer park to sell crack meth, so I don't need it to look like a ghetto sled.

I did look at possibly getting 14's for a 300 build because so many of the larger tire sizes now are only available for 14" wheels, but I couldn't find an 14" wheels that didn't look stupidly blingish so I never could bring myself to get any.

Luckily I found some OG 29.5 outlaws for 12" wheels so I can run stock Rubicon wheels.

To OP, I'd run what you have. Zillas are good tires, they're light, and you already have them.
This may sound dumb on my part, but I've always thought 14" rims made it slightly heavier? More steel at the price of lost rubber?

I still have no idea what rims are on it, but they look far from bling, bling -- thankfully. They look like some standard, silver rims with holes as designs.
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To be honest, I don't know. I've never rode a rancher with stock tires and rims, so I have no idea in what the differences would feel like.
OK have you ever rode a rancher that felt like it had too much HP??
and what sized tires were on them you rode, maybe use that as en example ??



I'm mostly concerned because the former owner stuck 14" rims, and 26-11-14 Zillas on it. I don't how much of a difference there is going to be between 12" rims, and 14" 26 tires. I don't know why he wouldn't just stick to a standard 26, instead of a larger 14" 26.

Do you have the 26 12", or the 14" one?


odds are the previous owner did so, as they liked the LOOKS of the larger wheel, I doubt there is much difference in weight of wheels/tires, but if you know name of wheel and tire, most companys list weights and you can fin d them from there and compare!
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I have no use for big wheels on anything unless it's required to clear larger brakes.

14" wheels should make the tire/wheel package lighter if anything. Less rubber sidewall should make for lighter tires. You gain "looks" (which is all in the eyes of the beholder) and give up sidewall flex, the ability to air down for a wider footprint/ more traction, and increase your risk of damaging a rim.

I've never cared for low profile tires and big rims. I'm not riding my ATV to the projects/ trailer park to sell crack meth, so I don't need it to look like a ghetto sled.

I did look at possibly getting 14's for a 300 build because so many of the larger tire sizes now are only available for 14" wheels, but I couldn't find an 14" wheels that didn't look stupidly blingish so I never could bring myself to get any.

Luckily I found some OG 29.5 outlaws for 12" wheels so I can run stock Rubicon wheels.

To OP, I'd run what you have. Zillas are good tires, they're light, and you already have them.
This may sound dumb on my part, but I've always thought 14" rims made it slightly heavier? More steel at the price of lost rubber?

I still have no idea what rims are on it, but they look far from bling, bling -- thankfully. They look like some standard, silver rims with holes as designs.

Well solid rubber tends to weigh more than the 2" longer spokes that would be the difference in a 12" or 14" wheel.

But it would depend on the wheel design and material. I couldn't find any basic functional 14" that I could bring myself to buy other than these, and I didn't really want to buy brand new wheels.

https://www.motosport.com/ITP-Delta-Steel-Wheel

Interestingly enough, the Zillas in a 14" seem to be heavier than the same sized Zilla in a 12", which doesn't make sense to me unless there are differences in the tread as well. The Mudbugs follow the general rule of "smaller wheel equals more tire weight"

https://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/v...pg=maxxistires
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