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Interestingly enough, the Zillas in a 14" seem to be heavier than the same sized Zilla in a 12", which doesn't make sense to me unless there are differences in the tread as well. The Mudbugs follow the general rule of "smaller wheel equals more tire weight"
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there might be a different design in the tires ina 14 over a 12, to stiffen things up to hold up as not having as much side wall
so, could be a different compound or just whole tire carcass used in making them!, thus adding weight to make them more solid with less rubber!
and again depending on wheel design, it could be heavier or lighter as well, not all 14 inch wheels weigh the same or are made the same , both in materials and design!
but from my little looking, most are not that big a difference in either up or down on weights!, unless you get into the more targeted one's made to be lighter!(wheels and tires here)

if my memory is correct, stock 350 ranchers are like what 23 hp> came with 24 inch tires, so going to any tire in the 26+ range is going to ROB HP, and its all back to how much HP loss your willing to live it and be happy with, what one says is OK< another might not!

if the atv right now HAS 26's on it in 14's, ride it see how you like it or NOT< before buying anything, and adjust from there after some seat time, some times that extra 1/2 inch of ground clearance isn;t worth the m power loss IMO! as you only gain a 1/2 inch of clearance for every inch of tire, and don;t forget also, that STOCK tires, don;t tend to run true to size, many are smaller than the side wall says, as are many aftermarket tires, so, just cause it says 25x10x12 or likes ?? doesn't mean its a true 25 inch tall tire!

but taller tires alter gearing, thus robbing HP at the GROUND!

the exhaust you got, is making more noise than making any extra HP too by the way, all in the marketing, more than an real gains, minus sound! IMO!

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OK have you ever rode a rancher that felt like it had too much HP??
and what sized tires were on them you rode, maybe use that as en example ??



I'm mostly concerned because the former owner stuck 14" rims, and 26-11-14 Zillas on it. I don't how much of a difference there is going to be between 12" rims, and 14" 26 tires. I don't know why he wouldn't just stick to a standard 26, instead of a larger 14" 26.

Do you have the 26 12", or the 14" one?


odds are the previous owner did so, as they liked the LOOKS of the larger wheel, I doubt there is much difference in weight of wheels/tires, but if you know name of wheel and tire, most companys list weights and you can fin d them from there and compare!
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I have no use for big wheels on anything unless it's required to clear larger brakes.

14" wheels should make the tire/wheel package lighter if anything. Less rubber sidewall should make for lighter tires. You gain "looks" (which is all in the eyes of the beholder) and give up sidewall flex, the ability to air down for a wider footprint/ more traction, and increase your risk of damaging a rim.

I've never cared for low profile tires and big rims. I'm not riding my ATV to the projects/ trailer park to sell crack meth, so I don't need it to look like a ghetto sled.

I did look at possibly getting 14's for a 300 build because so many of the larger tire sizes now are only available for 14" wheels, but I couldn't find an 14" wheels that didn't look stupidly blingish so I never could bring myself to get any.

Luckily I found some OG 29.5 outlaws for 12" wheels so I can run stock Rubicon wheels.

To OP, I'd run what you have. Zillas are good tires, they're light, and you already have them.
This may sound dumb on my part, but I've always thought 14" rims made it slightly heavier? More steel at the price of lost rubber?

I still have no idea what rims are on it, but they look far from bling, bling -- thankfully. They look like some standard, silver rims with holes as designs.

Well solid rubber tends to weigh more than the 2" longer spokes that would be the difference in a 12" or 14" wheel.

But it would depend on the wheel design and material. I couldn't find any basic functional 14" that I could bring myself to buy other than these, and I didn't really want to buy brand new wheels.

https://www.motosport.com/ITP-Delta-Steel-Wheel

Interestingly enough, the Zillas in a 14" seem to be heavier than the same sized Zilla in a 12", which doesn't make sense to me unless there are differences in the tread as well. The Mudbugs follow the general rule of "smaller wheel equals more tire weight"

https://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/v...pg=maxxistires
I don't have photo at hand, but my rims look like they could be the ones in your link. I know they're some ITP ones.

Also, thanks for all the replies guys.
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Interestingly enough, the Zillas in a 14" seem to be heavier than the same sized Zilla in a 12", which doesn't make sense to me unless there are differences in the tread as well. The Mudbugs follow the general rule of "smaller wheel equals more tire weight"
there might be a different design in the tires ina 14 over a 12, to stiffen things up to hold up as not having as much side wall
so, could be a different compound or just whole tire carcass used in making them!, thus adding weight to make them more solid with less rubber!
and again depending on wheel design, it could be heavier or lighter as well, not all 14 inch wheels weigh the same or are made the same , both in materials and design!
but from my little looking, most are not that big a difference in either up or down on weights!, unless you get into the more targeted one's made to be lighter!(wheels and tires here)

if my memory is correct, stock 350 ranchers are like what 23 hp> came with 24 inch tires, so going to any tire in the 26+ range is going to ROB HP, and its all back to how much HP loss your willing to live it and be happy with, what one says is OK< another might not!

if the atv right now HAS 26's on it in 14's, ride it see how you like it or NOT< before buying anything, and adjust from there after some seat time, some times that extra 1/2 inch of ground clearance isn;t worth the m power loss IMO! as you only gain a 1/2 inch of clearance for every inch of tire, and don;t forget also, that STOCK tires, don;t tend to run true to size, many are smaller than the side wall says, as are many aftermarket tires, so, just cause it says 25x10x12 or likes ?? doesn't mean its a true 25 inch tall tire!

but taller tires alter gearing, thus robbing HP at the GROUND!

the exhaust you got, is making more noise than making any extra HP too by the way, all in the marketing, more than an real gains, minus sound! IMO![/QUOTE]





I have heard Zillas tend to be smaller than advised, but I don't know if that's true or not, and how true it is.

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