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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 06:35 AM Thread Starter
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electric - blown... help!

ok.. I screwed up.

was supposed to be a simple install of an LED bar light using an on/off button mounted on the handlebar.

I wanted the power to the button to be available only if I chose to turn my headlights on..so I figured I'd splice into the OEM headlight wiring...easy nuff right?

the new button arrived...with no instructions..but has black/red/blue wires.

ok..so I ran black back to the battery to get a best ground.
red got it's power from the hot of the headlight highbeams..and sure nuff, the little blue light on the button lit when I turned on the headlights...blue return wire then went to the hot of the light bar and I connected the black of the light bar back to the common ground (white) of the OEM headlight wiring..figured that would do it..but no light on the bar...tested the bar directly and it lights fine..so I figured I was confused on the button...swapped the blue and red and poof...now I have no ignition at all..no green light on the console.

I checked the fuse (only fuse I know about) back under the seat in the battery compartment..it looks fine...ran a hot lead jumper just in case the fuse was blown at an end I can't tell..nothing.

so, have I fried my ignition switch? I hope I'm missing something simple..but I've done the dumb here and appreciate help fellas.


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Is your bike a 300FW? If so, there should be one or two more fuses in the junction box under the front fender..?


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thanks Retro..it's a 2x4 but I'll go digging under there this evening if you think there's a fuse there...?
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Yep, you'll find a couple of them up front if I remember right.


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whew...all better...I thought that the basic fourtrax 300 2x5 did not have the secondary accessory fuse system...but my bike does..and buried deep down in the battery compartment, under the accessory fuse, sure nuff, there was the primary..and a blown fuse that did it's job and protected the system.

I still for the life of me can't figure out how to wire in my little toggle switch...but with limited time this evening, i was just glad to have the bike back up and running without any major work.
i went ahead and just spliced the LED light bar into the headlight wires so when I turn on the headlights, the bar comes on...but ultimately i want to be able to select the light bar seperately with the handbar mounted button... I can't find any documentation on it..and it's sealed unlike other switched I've use..so I am having to assume which color does which...but it has black/blue/and what looks more like flesh tone, rather than red.

if i run black to ground, and the red to power, then send accessory out on the blue, the actual switches light comes on, but it never sends power to the light bar..it's something dumb and simple that I'm missing.. I've wired in this same light bar on my golf cart..works great...I'll order a different switch that i can see the backplane on i guess... anyway..ol Blue 1993 2x4 is back up and running...
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me personally, again I prefer top wire add's directly to the battery and inline fuse/relay's and switches
no worry's about over drawing , or cutting into a pretty high quality wired system, where things can go wrong!
lighted switches can make KNOWING there on easier to see too, if your worried about leaving on by mistake, or add a quick disconnect to power supply and get into happit of shutting it off when parking atv ! also will help battery last longer, as NO drains when parked then
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Retro , I think all 300s only have 2 fuses in the battery compartment , one for accessory with a pink wire and one for power with a red wire --- in the electrical connection box up front under the fender , there is a diode but no fuses
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Good work finding the fuses.
I dont cut into wires; too messy.
I plug my lights into a separate harness or plug into the special accessory circuit (pink and green wires on the other fuzed circuit you found back there).

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I"m definitely going to do something different than the way it is at the moment..but my challenge was that I found this really cool push button handlebar mount switch that happens to glow blue when powered..nice match to my southern blue 300...but a straight from battery connect to that leaves that little blue light on all the time..so yeah, a battery drain..by tapping power from the OEM lighting circuit, the blue button only has power when I choose to turn on the OEM lights..and then the new light bar doesn't come on until I choose to press that blue button..so I figured it would be a nice add that way.. I just can't figure the dang button out yet...anyway..for this evening I was just happy to be back up n running..left the light bar tied in directly to the OEM switch and was out on my trails in the heavey tree area where 8:30pm already gets a bit dim...that new bar light was already cutting into the dusk....now to figure out the dang blue button..and yes, i have good sealed new ends and shrink for my wire splicing...so it'll be water tight when I get done with it once again.

thanks again guys...panic subsided..just feeling a bit dumb..but that's nuttin new for me (grin)
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hot dang.. just found it !! and I would never have guessed this on my own...but the wiring for this particular switch per the manufacturer is:
Connection:Black(positive).Brown(negative).Blue(co nnect to the equipment,positive)

so the blue wire was the only one I guess correctly... dunno why but I thought the black would have been the negative...tomorrow I finish this thing !!

nite boys n girls...
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