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300 in neutral, output spins when kick start spun over

Local kid that I try to help out is trying to get his 300 ready for mud nats. He tried to "lefty loosey" on his clutch nut and spun the nut and ruined it (he still can't get it off) so he gave up on it and found a used motor that he went and picked up last night (supposedly good).

This morning I had a text from him saying it turns over in neutral when he spins the motor using the kick start (motor is on his bench).

Only thing I can think of is the reverse lockout is tied out of the way or maybe has the spring removed so it doesn't hold up into the shift drum, so what he thinks is Neutral is actually reverse.

Anything else that would cause those symptoms?

I started to ask @shadetree this via text, but figured if I posted it on the forum it might help someone out in the future.
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Local kid that I try to help out is trying to get his 300 ready for mud nats. He tried to "lefty loosey" on his clutch nut and spun the nut and ruined it (he still can't get it off) so he gave up on it and found a used motor that he went and picked up last night (supposedly good).

This morning I had a text from him saying it turns over in neutral when he spins the motor using the kick start (motor is on his bench).

Only thing I can think of is the reverse lockout is tied out of the way or maybe has the spring removed so it doesn't hold up into the shift drum, so what he thinks is Neutral is actually reverse.

Anything else that would cause those symptoms?

I started to ask @shadetree this via text, but figured if I posted it on the forum it might help someone out in the future.
if he's using the kick start to kick it over ?, and its turning the motor over ?, well..this is normal !...lol. the reverse lever at the right side of the engine has nothing to do from keeping the motor from turning over. only thing the reverse lever does is, it keeps you from using the electric start while in gear.

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and ALL trx300 MOTOR'S HAVE THE CENTRIFUGAL CLUTCH NUT ON REVERSE THREADS WITH THIER CRANKS ! :-).

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Local kid that I try to help out is trying to get his 300 ready for mud nats. He tried to "lefty loosey" on his clutch nut and spun the nut and ruined it (he still can't get it off) so he gave up on it and found a used motor that he went and picked up last night (supposedly good).

This morning I had a text from him saying it turns over in neutral when he spins the motor using the kick start (motor is on his bench).

Only thing I can think of is the reverse lockout is tied out of the way or maybe has the spring removed so it doesn't hold up into the shift drum, so what he thinks is Neutral is actually reverse.

Anything else that would cause those symptoms?

I started to ask @shadetree this via text, but figured if I posted it on the forum it might help someone out in the future.
some how I missed a part of the topic ^^^^ ?, let me also clear this up as well. when using electric start, or kick start in this case, all output shafts will turn '' somewhat '' while in neutral. when there is no load on the output shafts ?, they all will turn to some degree. this is normal. if the rear end, or in gear ?, then you have a load on the transmission, and if it spins when you kick it over ?, then yes, its in gear. when you try using the electric start while in gear, the whole atv can and will jump '' if '' the throttle sticks wide open ?!. this is why I always tell folks to not do this mod..its just begging for a wreck !!..lol. to answer this kid's problem ?, yes..the output shaft can spin even while in neutral if no load is on the transmission ? :-).
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I had a long day , read it three times , not sure what I read ----- you think the engine being on a bench , without any resistance like tires on the ground , makes a difference
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