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post #81 of 98 (permalink) Old 04-19-2018, 12:52 PM
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Jeep , 30 minutes after your first post , I typed Quote " Mel , would be the one to tell you about that ! He seems to be the Guru of all things electrical " , I nailed that one ! Nostra'Don'mus

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You would have to use a positive wire that's directly keyed or one that wouldn't cause a feedback problem. Jeep a few more wiring jobs and your Journeyman papers will be in the mail.
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I nominate Mel for forum member of the yea... err... decade! And Nostra'Don'mus as co-nominee... 'cause he calls 'em like they is! Thanks for putting a smile on me guys...
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It is nice the way everybody on the forum has a speciality , Mel is the electrical guy , Retro the custom engine performance guy , SlammedRanger the Sport Quad guy , etc , etc , me I got bullchitting covered
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It is nice the way everybody on the forum has a speciality , Mel is the electrical guy , Retro the custom engine performance guy , SlammedRanger the Sport Quad guy , etc , etc , me I got bullchitting covered
Nope. I'm the BS guy.

You and your stories about Mrs Fish are the comic relief.
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Bringing this one back from the dead.

For anyone wanting to do this, ultimately you hook in a relay as follows.

Grounded wire goes to swtich on brake lever

Wire coming off of other side of switch on brake lever goes to relay 85

Black/ brown wire coming off of 15A lights fuse goes to relay 86

Relay 87 is grounded

Snip wire going to neutral light

Relay 87A goes to neutral light

Relay 30 goes to wire you snipped off that used to go to neutral light.


Now, I want to do the same thing on the 97 300 Shadetree is fixing for my daughter.


So on that one, the same wiring will work with a relay, correct?
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Yeah, that mod works the same on all of the older manual shift bikes. Wire colors may be different on some models, but the neutral light circuits all work the same way. The mod can be adapted to work on all of the newer models too. The early ES bikes require one extra wire be run from the ECM harness to relay terminal 87a.

https://www.hondaatvforums.net/forum...ml#post1223238

I have one more idea to test yet, been sitting on it since last summer waiting for a chance to try. It might be a better circuit for handling the electric shift bikes (manual shift too) if my thinking is right. I'll post the additional info for that idea once its been tested on my bike, so probably in late April or May.
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Nice you'll brought this thread back ----- I now got 2 brake micro switches now with nothing hooked to them , one is on the left hand brake lever and one on the rear foot brake master cylinder , the neutral switch works on the bike now and it won't start in gear , the reverse lock out have been by-passed ---so---- what could I achieve with these micro switches = start in gear by pulling the lever , rear brake light , any other ideas ?
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Been out wiring in a relay on the kid’s 97 300.

Foreman brake MC so have one side of switch grounded, other run to relay 85.

12v pos switched source to 86 (pink ignition wire)

Relay 87a goes to + neutral light (black wire)

Relay 30 goes to black wire going into harness (where I snipped off black + wire going to neutral light).

Problem comes when I ground 87. If I do that when I hit the brake lever it blows the fuse.

If I don’t hook up 87 and squeeze the brake lever I can hear the relay engage, so that seems right.

What am I missing here? @retro @Melatv
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Relay 87a goes to the snipped (-) Neutral light wire which should be Light Green/Red.

Relay 30 connects to the snipped end of the Light Green/Red wire that goes to the solenoid.

So connect your snipped (+) Black Neutral light wire back together and snip the Lg/R Neutral light wire instead.

You have Relay 84, 85 and 87 hooked up correctly already.



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