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03-28-2019 06:34 AM
wmgeorge
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Our state will do a title search for $2.
In Iowa the legal owner can apply for a duplicate Title, sure its $25 or so but I always wonder how someone can Really Lose a Title. Getting one otherwise is a pain in the rear for the new buyer.
01-19-2019 07:50 AM
Goober Our state will do a title search for $2.
01-18-2019 10:17 PM
Freedomflyer Well if we want to ride our trails/streets legally here with license plate and trail sticker, titles are required. It is a one time fee for as long as we own the ATV. What surprises me is they don't require insurance when they issue a plate or trail sticker. We are required to fill out a form stating our machines comply with "Street legal" requirements but they don't even ask for proof of insurance before handing over the plate, if you are purchasing a used machine you just show them a the title and a bill of sale, they take the title do the online registration and send it off to the state office. 6-8 weeks later a title with your name shows up in the mail. Now if you are just going to keep it on the farm then I guess there is no requirement of documents to use it there but it my be wise to have a bill of sale just for proof of ownership. We ride ours on the streets and trails so I just pay the $163 dollars and then I don't have to worry about cops or forest service hassle. If we do happen to purchase a machine with out a title we can use the bill of sale as proof of purchase and apply for a new title and have DMV fill out the proper paper work. I usually won't buy anything that doesn't have a title no matter how good a deal it is, I just don't want to go through all of that hassle.
01-18-2019 07:03 PM
Paris Here in Arizona a bill of sale was useless. Had to go to a third party DMV and pay them to send letters to anyone who ever registered it. In my case it was two. Wait for thirty days, and then pay an insurance company a bond (100$) and pay for tags liscence plate and then I could use it here...they also inspect the quad and run a vin check. All in all I think it was 200$ or so...
All for a 2004 Trx250te. Was absolutely worth it.
12-18-2018 04:34 PM
Winchester1 Depends on what state you are in. Most of the others on here live in states where titles are not required. Titles are required in Indiana, not having one will make your ATV difficult to sell. I had to pass on some out of state ATV's because they did not have a title.
08-02-2018 03:06 PM
dr. feelgood I have bought many quads and dirt bikes from Wisconsin and Indiana that were not issued a title at time of sale. Not sure if it's different in those states now since I don't live there. Anyway, I take my bill of sale to the DMV and write 2 checks to the Illinois SOS totaling $55 and I get an Illinois title in the mail a few weeks later. Looks just like a passenger car/truck title with the VIN on it and printed on fancy watermarked paper. I've done it probably 10 times in the years I've been flipping quads.

Rob
08-02-2018 10:50 AM
Jeepwm69
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they get taxed over and over, taxes like this suck!
just a over taxed society IMO we are any more!
This is my problem. If sales tax was paid when the item was new, you can't tax it again!

In Arkansas farm equipment is exempt from sales tax, so luckily the one new bike I've bought was exempt since I use it working on the farm.

And Fish, I have USAA. Used to be an awesome company, but has gotten progressively worse over the years. They SAY I'm covered under homeowners, but I have a feeling if I ever try to file a claim I'll have to do a lot of fighting to get paid.
many things can be bought and NOT taxed for a farmer, BUT the problem ends up when you LEAVE the farm with these items, unless using them on farms that are being farmed by OWNER of these items, it can end up causing issue's
so if an accident or?? ever happens, you end up maybe getting busted for the taxes,(or tax fraud pending how much of a ?? someone wants to push things) and or just other issue's
if your referring to USAA insurance covering things, thru home owners, again, IF on YOUR land that the policy covers, MAYBE< but if off property, I doubt the policy would cover anything
even here in PA< any ATV NOT used on your OWN property MUST legally be insured and registered, as as soon as you leave your property with it, even to ride on a friends private property, your breaking the law doing so
STUPID and all, but is what the world is today, all about the small details that can screw you is needed !
Eh, here in Arkansas we're still not regulated to that extent.

Honestly, I don't think people in the South would allow that much government overreach. Would probably start another war.
08-02-2018 10:43 AM
mrbb
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Originally Posted by mrbb View Post
they get taxed over and over, taxes like this suck!
just a over taxed society IMO we are any more!
This is my problem. If sales tax was paid when the item was new, you can't tax it again!

In Arkansas farm equipment is exempt from sales tax, so luckily the one new bike I've bought was exempt since I use it working on the farm.

And Fish, I have USAA. Used to be an awesome company, but has gotten progressively worse over the years. They SAY I'm covered under homeowners, but I have a feeling if I ever try to file a claim I'll have to do a lot of fighting to get paid.
many things can be bought and NOT taxed for a farmer, BUT the problem ends up when you LEAVE the farm with these items, unless using them on farms that are being farmed by OWNER of these items, it can end up causing issue's
so if an accident or?? ever happens, you end up maybe getting busted for the taxes,(or tax fraud pending how much of a ?? someone wants to push things) and or just other issue's
if your referring to USAA insurance covering things, thru home owners, again, IF on YOUR land that the policy covers, MAYBE< but if off property, I doubt the policy would cover anything
even here in PA< any ATV NOT used on your OWN property MUST legally be insured and registered, as as soon as you leave your property with it, even to ride on a friends private property, your breaking the law doing so
STUPID and all, but is what the world is today, all about the small details that can screw you is needed !
08-02-2018 09:31 AM
Jeepwm69
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Jeep , I need to either get the name of your company for homeowners or move to Arkansas as my insurance told me the atv's are not covered unless I add a separate policy , we pay enough already $2,000 a year for homeowners and $500 for flood
I'm paying about 15-20% of my income for various insurance now. The sad thing is, I have liability only on the Jeeps, truck, and my Accord. Only the wife's Mazda has full coverage. Homeowners is a racket. I'm getting screwed there bad. Then health insurance added to it.

I do carry much more liability than the state minimum, but in today's litigious society, every time you leave the house you're at risk of a frivolous lawsuit, and given how far we've fallen as a society, you're likely to lose.
08-02-2018 09:27 AM
Jeepwm69
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Originally Posted by mrbb View Post
they get taxed over and over, taxes like this suck!
just a over taxed society IMO we are any more!
This is my problem. If sales tax was paid when the item was new, you can't tax it again!

In Arkansas farm equipment is exempt from sales tax, so luckily the one new bike I've bought was exempt since I use it working on the farm.

And Fish, I have USAA. Used to be an awesome company, but has gotten progressively worse over the years. They SAY I'm covered under homeowners, but I have a feeling if I ever try to file a claim I'll have to do a lot of fighting to get paid.
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